[JGibson]

Folks feel unsafe on certain roads and here I’m wanting to cross Rolling Acres rd to get into the huge shopping plaza.

I’m sorry for your dilemma but I still want to cross Rolling Acres. It can't be anymore dangerous than what is being described.

[vermonster]

Originally Posted by JGibson

Folks feel unsafe on certain roads and here I’m wanting to cross Rolling Acres rd to get into the huge shopping plaza.

I’m sorry for your dilemma but I still want to cross Rolling Acres. It can't be anymore dangerous than what is being described.

The difference is there are dedicated turn lanes to cross Rolling Acres. There are none to turn at the intersection in question. You have to stop and wait in the travel lane and hope the drivers coming up or down the road will be driving at a sane speed and will see you in time to stop.

[pauld315]

Originally Posted by VApeople

Every time I have to turn left off Morse or Buena Vista, I either have a stop light to make it easy or I am in a roundabout and I have the right-of-way and I can slowly make my turn and the cars going straight have to yield.

I have no idea what it is like "turning across Morse at Hacienda". It sounds somewhat difficult and that is why I advised the OP to stop doing.

Obviously not correct. Writer must not understand that people are talking specifically of turning a golf cart north of 466 on Morse

[PugMom]

again, all of this adds up to being aware & responsible while driving, either a cart OR car. with any road, drive @ your own risk: use caution & let's watch out for each other. 'nuff said

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by Bridget Eichaker

Why do people have to criticize others on Talk of The Villages. Not nice, thank you Mr Pairadocs

Why does it happen on any such forum? Easy. Anonymity is safe.

But perspective is important. This place is Miss Manners on steroids compared to another well-known area discussion site, V-N. AKA The Dark Side. I once read (on here, actually) that the discussion groups over there are inhabited by “drooling knuckle-draggers”. I think that is giving it far too much credit.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by toeser

I bike and use my golf cart on all of Morse from #27 to @#466 and crossing at Hacienda is clearly the most dangerous. Part of has to do with there being a hill and curve. Part of it is that it is not a two-sided intersection. Trying to make sure the road is clear behind you while making sure it's clear in front of you is much more difficult than making a straight crossing. Plus, you have a lot of traffic converging for the temporary post office, not just golfer traffic. It is a really bad situation.

For the carts that are southbound and have to turn left into HH, like the OP, you ONLY have to worry about the road being clear BEHIND you when you merge into the car lane. THEN, you can worry about the ONCOMING traffic to make your turn. You DO NOT have to do both at once.

[toeser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

For the carts that are southbound and have to turn left into HH, like the OP, you ONLY have to worry about the road being clear BEHIND you when you merge into the car lane. THEN, you can worry about the ONCOMING traffic to make your turn. You DO NOT have to do both at once.

If I'm my bike, I would never ever move into the car lane and then stop to turn. One inattentive driver and I'm dead.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by toeser

If I'm my bike, I would never ever move into the car lane and then stop to turn. One inattentive driver and I'm dead.

Then you are doing it wrong.

What do you do, pull off the right shoulder and then walk the bike across two lanes?

[Laker14]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

For the carts that are southbound and have to turn left into HH, like the OP, you ONLY have to worry about the road being clear BEHIND you when you merge into the car lane. THEN, you can worry about the ONCOMING traffic to make your turn. You DO NOT have to do both at once.

I think what the OP is describing is having done exactly what you describe, but while waiting for the oncoming traffic (northbound) to have a hole open for the left turn, sitting in the car lane (southbound) in a golf cart waiting to make a left into the HHCC lot, while automobile traffic rounds the curve behind him/her, maybe too fast, maybe with late visibility, and maybe not paying full attention, and slamming into the cart.

One option would be to go past the intersection, wait for both lanes to clear and make a U-turn, and come from the other direction.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

No, no and no. Like ALL left turns in TV off roads with a cart lane, YOU FIRST MERGE into the car lane THEN turn left from there, NEVER turn left from the cart lane unless you are suicidal. I think writer may have been talking about almost getting rear ended while in the car lane waiting to turn left, otherwise the approaching car would have to be in the cart lane.

Originally Posted by Laker14

I think what the OP is describing is having done exactly what you describe, but while waiting for the oncoming traffic (northbound) to have a hole open for the left turn, sitting in the car lane (southbound) in a golf cart waiting to make a left into the HHCC lot, while automobile traffic rounds the curve behind him/her, maybe too fast, maybe with late visibility, and maybe not paying full attention, and slamming into the cart.

One option would be to go past the intersection, wait for both lanes to clear and make a U-turn, and come from the other direction.

Yes, exactly as I previously described.

[RICH1]

More tunnels and overpasses equals higher fees

[RICH1]

Originally Posted by JGibson

Folks feel unsafe on certain roads and here I’m wanting to cross Rolling Acres rd to get into the huge shopping plaza.

I’m sorry for your dilemma but I still want to cross Rolling Acres. It can't be anymore dangerous than what is being described.

The Marijuana shop is over there also! Hmmm I see” shopping plaza” is a code word

[Laker14]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Yes, exactly as I previously described.

sorry, must have missed it or misunderstood it.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Laker14

sorry, must have missed it or misunderstood it.

Not a problem, I was agreeing with you

[Paul1934]

Suggest a field trip for those making suggestions on getting in or out of the Hacienda postal trailer or golf shop parking lot.
They now have closed the northbound cart lane in the area, throwing carts, bikes and cars into the same lane.
As a retired LEO, it is an accident waiting to happen, again.