[Altavia]

Originally Posted by SusanStCatherine

I read that The Villages Grown greenhouses will be relocated to a more northern location. This may make southern access to the new Walmart easier.

Walmart may be just the start. The Villages Map seems to show a lot of commercial development pre-planning for that corner.

[VApeople]

In my opinion, the best solution for the Chitty Chatty and Morse intersection is to simply put in a traffic light.

I doubt TV will do it because will be admitting that TV was stupid to build Chitty Chatty like it is.

[Ashley from UK]

It’s not TV problem. It’s Sumter County

[Ashley from UK]

Originally Posted by CybrSage

What did they say when you told them this at one of the many town halls? Curious what their answer was.

It’s the current topic of debate and n CC.

[Marathon Man]

Originally Posted by VApeople

In my opinion, the best solution for the Chitty Chatty and Morse intersection is to simply put in a traffic light.

I doubt TV will do it because will be admitting that TV was stupid to build Chitty Chatty like it is.

I doubt it, also. Especially since TV does not add traffic lights to county roads.

[Ashley from UK]

Originally Posted by CybrSage

Would you refuse to stop for a fire truck with its lights and sirens on? Do you know anyone who would refuse to stop for it?
If the answer to both is no, then what basis is there to claim others will do it, but only after 9pm?

And here lies the next problem

Chat GBT states ….

🚫 Florida State Law Applies Statewide

According to Florida Statutes § 316.1945(1)(b)5:

“No person shall stand or park a vehicle … within 20 feet of the driveway entrance to any fire station and on the side of a street opposite the entrance to any fire station within 75 feet of such entrance (when property signposted).” 

“This includes U‑turns, which inherently involve standing momentarily—which is explicitly prohibited.

Additionally, general traffic guidelines reinforce the restriction:
• “No person shall make a U‑turn in front of the driveway entrance or approaches to a fire station. No person shall use the driveway entrance or approaches to a fire station for the purpose of turning a vehicle so as to proceed in the opposite direction”

Also reference statute 316.1515. While it does not specifically prohibit u-turns at a fire station (or anywhere else, for that matter), it can be assumed it comes down to how the officer writes the ticket. If you do a search, the AI bots say u-turns in front of a fire station are not allowed in Florida. A citation would be written to say that doing so impeded the movement of rescue apparatus.

So the question is why did the company commissioned
To undertake the report recommend doing a U Turn at the fire station as the preferred option?

[VApeople]

Originally Posted by Marathon Man

I doubt it, also. Especially since TV does not add traffic lights to county roads.

There is a traffic light at the intersection of St. James and Bailey Trail. That light was already in place when we moved here in 2016. I suspect the light was put in after TV realized the intersection was unsafe.

[Pugchief]

Originally Posted by VApeople

There is a traffic light at the intersection of St. James and Bailey Trail. That light was already in place when we moved here in 2016. I suspect the light was put in after TV realized the intersection was unsafe.

I think you meant St. Charles....

[Altavia]

Originally Posted by VApeople

There is a traffic light at the intersection of St. James and Bailey Trail. That light was already in place when we moved here in 2016. I suspect the light was put in after TV realized the intersection was unsafe.

And there are at least two lights (so far...) on Central Parkway.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Ashley from UK

And here lies the next problem

Chat GBT states ….

🚫 Florida State Law Applies Statewide

According to Florida Statutes § 316.1945(1)(b)5:

“No person shall stand or park a vehicle … within 20 feet of the driveway entrance to any fire station and on the side of a street opposite the entrance to any fire station within 75 feet of such entrance (when property signposted).” 

“This includes U‑turns, which inherently involve standing momentarily—which is explicitly prohibited.

Additionally, general traffic guidelines reinforce the restriction:
• “No person shall make a U‑turn in front of the driveway entrance or approaches to a fire station. No person shall use the driveway entrance or approaches to a fire station for the purpose of turning a vehicle so as to proceed in the opposite direction”

Also reference statute 316.1515. While it does not specifically prohibit u-turns at a fire station (or anywhere else, for that matter), it can be assumed it comes down to how the officer writes the ticket. If you do a search, the AI bots say u-turns in front of a fire station are not allowed in Florida. A citation would be written to say that doing so impeded the movement of rescue apparatus.

So the question is why did the company commissioned
To undertake the report recommend doing a U Turn at the fire station as the preferred option?

I don’t see any mention of a U-turn in 316.1945, did you add that yourself? Stopping to wait for traffic, whether making a turn or in a long line, is not standing (the action prohibited by the statute).

The company recommended it as the most logical and appropriate means of dealing with traffic that needs to go south.

[VApeople]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

I think you meant St. Charles....

Yeah, I don't know why I always get confused with the name of that street.

[Cdj1040]

No, we will NOT drive to the Lake Deaton circle to go south. Our only choice is to continue to drive north to the fire station and turn around there. We are very angry about the poor planning and increased traffic that the new southern developments have caused. If a roundabout is too expensive as we were told, there should be a stop light. Traffic on Morse goes much faster than the speed limit. Very angry about this. QUOTE=Normal;2441520]Traffic right now builds up around11-2 at Morse and 44. It will be interesting to see what happens in the winter months and after the Walmart is done. Chitty Chatty and Sandalwood will have to suffer with the one choice flow. It will be nice for the Sandalwood residents because they have a close roundabout if they want to go North. Chitty Chatty wi ll have the arduous trek to Lake Deaton’s circle in order to go South.[/QUOTE]

[Pugchief]

Originally Posted by Cdj1040

We are very angry about the poor planning and increased traffic that the new southern developments have caused. If a roundabout is too expensive as we were told, there should be a stop light. Traffic on Morse goes much faster than the speed limit. Very angry about this.

Did you not know this when you bought your house? If not, could it be anticipated? Traffic on Morse south of 44 has a 45mph speed limit. It has always (AFAIK) been this way. New building brings new traffic. And new retail. Look at the growth on 466A over the last 3 years. We knew it was coming. Not if, but when. Traffic is more congested there than it was 3 years ago, and will prob get worse as more retail goes in.

There will be similar down south as the growth occurs there. If you thought the area you bought would be static forever, it would have mad more sense to purchase in one of the older, more established areas where major changes are more difficult. Even then, no guarantees.

[Altavia]

Originally Posted by Altavia

The planning shows addition of lights on main entrances on Morse and a second on 44 at the western entrance. 0.3 & 0.5 mi respectfully from the Morse/44 intersection.

It appears work has started on both new entrances, and they are large piles of material near the NW corner of Morse and 44?

[VApeople]

Originally Posted by Cdj1040

We are very angry about the poor planning and increased traffic that the new southern developments have caused.

When they first started building in Chitty Chatty, it was obvious to us it would be very difficult to pull out onto Morse Road.

I tried to warn new home buyers. For example, I posted this in 2020.

"I think the very biggest problem with Chitty Chatty is when you leave and try to turn left on route 468.

We drive to the Southern several times a week and we see cars and trucks having a hard time turning left out of Chitty Chatty."