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Old 07-05-2011, 02:45 PM
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Don't recall seeing this posted. If it has....oops.

Very interesting. Check out Morse Blvd. extension.

http://www.sumtercountyfl.gov/Agenda...0_952_1046.pdf
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Old 07-05-2011, 03:04 PM
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I cringe a bit when I read paragraph two of the Project Need section. I understand that is the way it is and will be, but will be interesting to see the impact to the TV community with regards to traffic as this "four-lane divided roadway" known to us as Morse is used as the way to get from 44 to 27/441.
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AJ.....it's not just you. totally. That was precisely my original reaction and concern but, I was reserving judgment until I get some time to take a hard look at the scope of the whole $20M project. Personally, I would be more impacted if it was Buena Vista instead of Morse. However, overflow detours to Buena Vista from Morse, if the traffic pattern was lighter on Buena Vista, would be plausible. Oh......the price of progress.
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This is going to add loads of traffic to our neighborhood. People will be driving up our scenic byways instead of the ugly roads they drive on now. They'll do this tossing slurpie cups and soda cans, etc.

Think the round-a-bouts are scary now? We ain't seen nothing yet.
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Now you can understand how those of us who live in the area north of CR 466 felt when they expanded TV south of CR 466. The two lane portion of Morse Blvd was not built with the idea of carrying all that traffic. The road got torn up and it was very difficult to exit from neighborhood streets onto Morse Blvd. especially during winter months. Took years of studies and accidents before county re-did the road and added traffic lights and widened the golf cart lanes. Perhaps now now you can understand why some long term residents got upset with the development of LSL and beyond.


So now you can look forward to increased vehicular traffic coming through TV as they go between the turnpike and US Hwy 441/27 towards Ocala. Since they are all County roads what's to prevent an increase in commercial traffic traveling through TV?

Picture all those 18 wheelers coming across the causeway between LSL and CR 466. It wont be pretty. Does that concern any of you Smart Car and Street Legal Vehicle operators? It should.
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Now you can understand how those of us who live in the area north of CR 466 felt when they expanded TV south of CR 466. The two lane portion of Morse Blvd was not built with the idea of carrying all that traffic. The road got torn up and it was very difficult to exit from neighborhood streets onto Morse Blvd. especially during winter months. Took years of studies and accidents before county re-did the road and added traffic lights and widened the golf cart lanes. Perhaps now now you can understand why some long term residents got upset with the development of LSL and beyond.


So now you can look forward to increased vehicular traffic coming through TV as they go between the turnpike and US Hwy 441/27 towards Ocala. Since they are all County roads what's to prevent an increase in commercial traffic traveling through TV?

Picture all those 18 wheelers coming across the causeway between LSL and CR 466. It wont be pretty. Does that concern any of you Smart Car and Street Legal Vehicle operators? It should.
I guess your point is misery loves company?
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I guess before we all let panic set is that we need to get a bit more of the facts...

1. Would 18 wheelers be restricted? Just because the roads are public, they can be limited to certain classes of vehicle.

2. Who do we see driving through TV to get to 27/441? I'm not sure going through TV with it's roundabouts, 35 mph speed limit and traffic signals is better than taking 466A or 44 to 27/441.

3. Love 'em or hate 'em - the Morse family isn't stupid. If they think there is that much of a negative impact, why would they do this?

4. Hope for those totally opposed: some of the $$ for this appears to be coming from the State of Florida. With Gov. Scott's approval so low, can he afford this funding which may be perceived as cronyism - remember the high-speed rail line.

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Could be that this interchange is projected to take traffic away from TV. I know if I were heading north to Ocala on the turnpike I would not take a 35mph street through a residential area with roundabouts to reach my destination. And how many 18 wheelers do we see on Morse in any given day now? Would truck drivers jump at a chance to navigate these roundabouts? Not sure that will be an issue. However, if I were in TV and wanted to get on a quick route south to Orlando area, this could be the ticket. Just have to wait and see.
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The practical route from turnpike to Ocala is I 75 whether driving a Smart car or an eighteen wheeler.
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Could be that this interchange is projected to take traffic away from TV. I know if I were heading north to Ocala on the turnpike I would not take a 35mph street through a residential area with roundabouts to reach my destination. And how many 18 wheelers do we see on Morse in any given day now? Would truck drivers jump at a chance to navigate these roundabouts? Not sure that will be an issue. However, if I were in TV and wanted to get on a quick route south to Orlando area, this could be the ticket. Just have to wait and see.
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Will it be golf cart accessible.....giggle, giggle, snort, snort!!!!
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I live off Morse Blvd. in the Rio Ponderosa Village, We have been plauged with not being able to get out of San Morino Drive for some time. A traffic light was installed to shut us up. However it did nothing to slow down or restrict traffic. It seems that it is being used as a short cut, rather than going down 466 to Roling Acers Road than to 27/441 north to the intercection of Morse. Which involves 4 traffic lights and considerable mileage. It is easier to turn onto Morse at 466 and cut thru to 27/441. Even though there are three lights to contend to and a roundabout. it is still shorter and faster. If the Sumter County Police Department would inforce the speed limit on this road it would cut down the Racing drivers, (have seen most going over the 35 mph speed limit). and perhaps we could go to our mail box and not sit for 5 minutes trying to exit. My wife came up with a good idea, Since this is a county road going thru the villages, charge a toll for all visitors passing thru, we already have the gate houses, boy we could have one of the best paved roads in the villages with no cost to residents. (just joking, don't want to give the Morse Family another way to make money).
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When I first came here in 2002 this turnpike connection was common knowledge ........The developer wanted the main entrance to TV to be from the turnpike and cut a deal with the state that if they would build an exit , we would build the four lane connecting roads.......They agreed and it was a done deal with all the land purchases to follow before the word got out..........The new Governor had nothing to do with it and besides ,,,,,,,YOUR GONNA LOVE IT ......

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Hi Cabo35,
Thanks for the link.

The plan to expand the turnpike and its interchange accessible to TV have been public for years. It's not like it's a surprise. People can't move to paradise and expect to close the door behind them-- though it has been tried many times in lesser places.



Let's hope that gates at the exterior of TV, as well as throughout it's interior, remain, in part to discourage thru-traffic. I know some people don't like the gates or the roundabouts, but as I've said on the subject before, be careful what you wish for. They serve us well.

In the meantime, onward progress.
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Old 07-05-2011, 07:48 PM
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Fumar and PT make good points. When I moved here 466 was a little traveled two lane country road. Few knew 466A existed but we knew Morse Blvd. was going to connect to the turnpike.

Fear not. I will not not contaminate your streets with my presence. Navigating those roundabouts are not my choice. There are better ways for me to get to the turnpike.
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