[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Velvet

Yes, it’s silly I know, but sometimes the slow cart drivers speed up, not to irritate the passing cart, but because they just realized they were going too slow. In any case, they should let the cart pass easily. Same sometimes happens on the highway with cars.

At least part of the time the fault is with the perception of the person attempting the pass. My wife recounted an incident just recently where a cart was following closely behind her down one of the diamond lanes. The cart finally pulled out to pass but was taking a long time to get by. While they were in the process of passing, a car came up behind them and the driver expressed his displeasure that the cart was blocking the driving lane.

Perhaps to the driver of the other cart it seemed like my wife had sped up as he attempted to pass. That was certainly not the case as she, like most others, drives with the pedal on the floor. The other driver thought she was going to slow, thought he was much faster, and perhaps thought she sped up but all were incorrect.

Of course, the other happens too, but it is not always the case.

[Bealman]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I do it that way. Big deal if I have to walk on the grass sometimes as the carts pass. The grass does NOT bite.

But the Noseeums sure do bite.....

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

At least part of the time the fault is with the perception of the person attempting the pass. My wife recounted an incident just recently where a cart was following closely behind her down one of the diamond lanes. The cart finally pulled out to pass but was taking a long time to get by. While they were in the process of passing, a car came up behind them and the driver expressed his displeasure that the cart was blocking the driving lane.

Perhaps to the driver of the other cart it seemed like my wife had sped up as he attempted to pass. That was certainly not the case as she, like most others, drives with the pedal on the floor. The other driver thought she was going to slow, thought he was much faster, and perhaps thought she sped up but all were incorrect.

Of course, the other happens too, but it is not always the case.

OK, that could happen. But in reality, the other 99,99% of the time the cart or car IS going too slow. So, if it speeds up, it is violating 316.083 sec 5

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

OK, that could happen. But in reality, the other 99,99% of the time the cart or car IS going too slow. So, if it speeds up, it is violating 316.083 sec 5

No question about that. Just pointing out *sometimes* the problem is the guy staring back in the mirror.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

At least part of the time the fault is with the perception of the person attempting the pass. My wife recounted an incident just recently where a cart was following closely behind her down one of the diamond lanes. The cart finally pulled out to pass but was taking a long time to get by. While they were in the process of passing, a car came up behind them and the driver expressed his displeasure that the cart was blocking the driving lane.

Perhaps to the driver of the other cart it seemed like my wife had sped up as he attempted to pass. That was certainly not the case as she, like most others, drives with the pedal on the floor. The other driver thought she was going to slow, thought he was much faster, and perhaps thought she sped up but all were incorrect.

Of course, the other happens too, but it is not always the case.

Where isit written that carts are to be driven "pedal to the metal"?
I your scenario, the cart that thought he could pass obviously couldn't since he was already traveling at max speed. His impatience put both at risk of exactly what happened. Never pass unless you are sure you can do it quickly and safely.
Secondly. While your wife had every right to continue without varying her speed, by not slowing down when someone tries to pass, she showed poor judgment from a safety standpoint. She could have easily taken foot off the accelerator for a few seconds to let "Mr/Ms Foolishly Impatient" get past.
This was a case where both parties showed poor judgment. Immho.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Technically? No actually. There is no Villages police force.

Your assumption that a quick acting police force was needed……was wrong.

Flowers are changed by the District, potholes are fixed by the county. ???

“Yet maybe police are completely lacking” . What are you basing this statement on?

You say real disaster. What do you mean?

Your post, to me, is just a lot of fear mongering.

What I mean by a real disaster is if the gun violence we see on TV every week came to The Village. Suppose 2 shooters killed 20 people at one of the squares. And if that did happen, it would prove that I was NOT wrong about the need for some kind of fast acting Police force. I don't care if they are called Sheriffs or Police force as long as they react quickly and keep people safe around The Villages.
..........There are also a lot of high tech Police equipment - like drones that could improve safety in The Villages.

[jimjamuser]

What I mean by a real disaster is if the gun violence we see on TV every week came to The Village. Suppose 2 shooters killed 20 people at one of the squares. And if that did happen, it would prove that I was NOT wrong about the need for some kind of fast acting Police force. I don't care if they are called Sheriffs or Police force as long as they react quickly and keep people safe around The Villages.
..........There are also a lot of high tech Police equipment - like drones that could improve safety in The Villages.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

This subject has gone for 5 pages. So, that shows reasonable interest. Some subjects end up only 1 or 2 pages long. Plus this subject involves SAFETY. New residents might want the opinions of veteran residents on the safety of the MMPs. Many people responding thought that it was a SINCERE question.

The last 20 posts about same subject went 5 pages or more with same opinions.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

OK, that could happen. But in reality, the other 99,99% of the time the cart or car IS going too slow. So, if it speeds up, it is violating 316.083 sec 5

99.99%? Really? I think you might be a wee bit high.
What is "going too slow"? Slower than someone with a souped up cart? Someone slowing down to make a turn or negotiate a curve or some other obstacle?
"Too slow " is a matter of opinion. The opinion of one who wants to go fast. Re-think 99.99%, please.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Where isit written that carts are to be driven "pedal to the metal"?
I your scenario, the cart that thought he could pass obviously couldn't since he was already traveling at max speed. His impatience put both at risk of exactly what happened. Never pass unless you are sure you can do it quickly and safely.
Secondly. While your wife had every right to continue without varying her speed, by not slowing down when someone tries to pass, she showed poor judgment from a safety standpoint. She could have easily taken foot off the accelerator for a few seconds to let "Mr/Ms Foolishly Impatient" get past.
This was a case where both parties showed poor judgment. Immho.

I disagree. I am, in fact, entitled to maintain speed and continue traveling regardless of whether someone is attempting to pass or not.

Nowhere is it written that one must drive "pedal to the metal." What *is* written is that golf carts can travel at a speed not to exceed 20mph. In the case of my cart, "pedal to the metal" does not exceed 20mph and is therefore a perfectly acceptable technique.

Except for two very specific cases, my driving technique is not dictated by the driver behind me. If someone feels they should pass me then let them. I will not increase my speed, that is illegal and unsafe, but I am under no obligation to decrease my speed either. If the driver attempting to pass misjudged, the responsibility for correcting that misjudgment sits with him, not me.

Two specific cases: 1. If I am in the leftmost lane and a faster car is approaching from behind then I must move to the right. 2. If an emergency vehicle with lights or siren is approaching from behind then I must pull to the nearest curb and stop.

Obvious: I must take all necessary actions to avoid an accident. However, I am under no obligation to assist another driver in correcting his mistake.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

99.99%? Really? I think you might be a wee bit high.
What is "going too slow"? Slower than someone with a souped up cart? Someone slowing down to make a turn or negotiate a curve or some other obstacle?
"Too slow " is a matter of opinion. The opinion of one who wants to go fast. Re-think 99.99%, please.

Rethought it. 99.98%

Too slow-----probably less than 17 in a cart, 5-10 mph below speed limit in a car

Those going 19 seem to irritate those who have carts capable of 25, but too bad. If you do the math, the difference between 19 and 25 over a 3 mile trip is only about 2.2 minute difference, IF it were a straightaway without stops, curves, road crossing, etc. In reality a cart going 20 averages 15.5, and a cart capable of going 25 averages about 17.5. This makes the difference only 45-50 seconds, and the cart going 19 is not going to end up in court

[kansasr]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

The last 20 posts about same subject went 5 pages or more with same opinions.

We need a new category here "Topics that have been beat to death, but someone new has an opinion."

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Rethought it. 99.98%

Glad to see you correct your estimation to a much more acceptable level. Thank you, so much. 🙃

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by kansasr

We need a new category here "Topics that have been beat to death, but someone new has an opinion."

Just like a good BM, a good rant can make you feel great.

[Laker14]

Originally Posted by Raywatkins

In 8 years only 4 incidents.
I misjudged an overtake in my cart. Apologies to the other cart for the near miss.
A cart came round a bend too fast on a wet surface and came across my side. I had to brake hard and slid round in almost a 180. No apology.
Twice on my bike i strayed a bit too far over towards the middle and got overtaken too close by a cart.
Seems like we all make the odd mistake. Perhaps a bit more understanding and tolerance is needed.

Excellent post.
We all make mistakes. I have never been in an accident, and I have never been ticketed for a moving violation, in 55 years of driving.
However, that does not mean I've never screwed up. I have been lucky a few times, and bailed out by defensive drivers a few times. Times when I owe my clean record to someone else who was being more careful, and more alert than I was.

I have also bailed out a few others, because at that particular moment I was being careful and alert, which I usually am when driving. But nobody is perfect.

Be careful, be cautious, be alert, and try to be courteous as well.