[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by doran

I sure wish you people were as smart and well informed about the real world, rather than what you hear and read. Truth be known, most folks in the USA have never left the country to first hand experience the way things are in different cultures and religions of the world. Until you can say you have seen this Islamic Jihad and the way it is shunned by the majority of Islam, this is nothing but one persons opinion. If anyone wants to take personal offense to what I have to say, as the last comment, bring it on. You have no business singling me out personally and I take offense.

Last time I checked, you are not the moderator.

You nailed it!



And along the lines of what you've said...comes to mind one of my favorite quotes.

Originally Posted by Mark Twain

“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.”

[graciegirl]

Most Support Temporary Ban on Newcomers from Terrorist Havens - Rasmussen Reports™

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

How did he feel about dogs?

He thought they were very dirty. Dogs in Islam | Animals in Islam

I have run into Muslims at Doggie Doo Run Run though and they seemed OK with dogs.

[Allegiance]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

You nailed it!



And along the lines of what you've said...comes to mind one of my favorite quotes. [emoji106]

BILL MAHER GETS ISLAM MAKES A FOOL OF CHARLIE ROSE - YouTube

[Allegiance]

MUSLIMS WILL NOT ASSIMILATE. CHRISTIANS ALWAYS ASSIMILATE. WHY? IT’S IN THE RELIGION AND THE BOOKS: THE QURAN vs. THE BIBLE | Act! Pittsburgh

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

He thought they were very dirty. Dogs in Islam | Animals in Islam

I have run into Muslims at Doggie Doo Run Run though and they seemed OK with dogs.

Now the other Arabs/Muslims I met in Denver would probably have different views of dogs as each one came from different countries. My Professor for Cataloging was Egyptian-- Professor M. Nabib Hamdy. Not sure if he was a Muslim though.

[manaboutown]

Prior to Muhammed coming on the scene the Arab world had a relatively advanced civilization. It excelled in mathematics, science and astronomy. We got our number system from them. As Islam spread advances came to a screeching halt.

A woman minister I know spent considerable time in the middle east. She told me some amazing stories one of which I recall vividly. She was in a village containing a deep well which was just a hole in the ground. Every once in a while a child would fall into the well and drown. When she asked why they did not build a wall around the well to prevent such tragedies they informed her that such occurrences were Allah's will. They remarkably did not build a wall around the hole to prevent such future tragedies.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

Prior to Muhammed coming on the scene the Arab world had a relatively advanced civilization. It excelled in mathematics, science and astronomy. We got our number system from them. As Islam spread advances came to a screeching halt.

A woman minister I know spent considerable time in the middle east. She told me some amazing stories one of which I recall vividly. She was in a village containing a deep well which was just a hole in the ground. Every once in a while a child would fall into the well and drown. When she asked why they did not build a wall around the well to prevent such tragedies they informed her that such occurrences were Allah's will. They remarkably did not build a wall around the hole to prevent such future tragedies.

That's kind of medieval thinking with respect to holding that God or whatever permeates everything that happens. Kings and other depots made great use of it in the Divine Right of Kings. Divine right of kings - Wikipedia BBC Radio 4 - In Our Time, The Divine Right of Kings

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Where Do Terrorists Come From? Not the Nations Named in Trump Ban




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The countries named in Trump's ban are;

Syria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen,

isis in syria 2017 - Bing

isis in iraq - Bing

isis in iran 2016 - Bing

isis in libya today - Bing

I can easily site the rest if you want to read them.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

The countries named in Trump's ban are;

Syria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen,

isis in syria 2017 - Bing

isis in iraq - Bing

isis in iran 2016 - Bing

isis in libya today - Bing

I can easily site the rest if you want to read them.

But not where Trump has personal business nor where the more sophisticated terrorists have come from like Saudia Arabia. I mean the 9/11 terrorists. September 11th Hijackers Fast Facts - CNN.com

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

But not where Trump has personal business nor where the more sophisticated terrorists have come from like Saudia Arabia. I mean the 9/11 terrorists. September 11th Hijackers Fast Facts - CNN.com

I am satisfied that the countries in the ban are ones that should be in the ban if only the damned federal judges would let it stand.

[TheDude]

Everyone is anti-racist until someone you don't identify with moves next door to you which comes with their visiting family and their 19-23 year old sons who visit Syria/Afghan often). There is a lot of high-horses here. None of you would move to Fuller Park in Chicago. And I really bet its a rare bird if any of you would want assimilation in THIER neighborhood.

As to the newspaper article, their job is selling papers, and they use multiple sources to fill the pages. Nothing wrong with the paper. We do have to realize that in other places in the world you would not see Christmas posted in their paper. Be glad we only have to read it. Everyone is also allowed their opinion, and those who post they are so welcoming should think that others truly are fearful and you should respect them. Don't throw rocks in glass houses as their may be something in your closet that others may not agree with.

Back to the Muslim religion. They are the terrorists for most part (yes, there is a rare bird who snapped). Muslims changed the world (airports, police with assault weapons, watching for bags without owners). Until it happens once, I cannot recall an 80 year old grandmother terrorist suicide bomber however that 80 year old grandmother has to take off her shoes at the airport and even be patted down to be politically correct. makes no sense at all. I believe every terrorist had a family and their family knew/knows something wasn't right. And not reporting it is as bad as actually doing it. They should be responsible also, and sadly, they may be good practicing Muslims.

How do you fix it? Probably can't but can weaken them. Its now a fact of life. Muslim isn't a nationality, its a choice, and so are radical Muslims. US and UN just needs to drone and kill the bad guys; and then soon the leaders of ISIS will not be as smart as the dead ones. Then it will be easier to catch the mistakes. Its all that can be done.

To conclude: The newspaper article wasn't bad, but it pushed buttons of those with fears and who thought is was disrespectful and it was expressed.

To each their own; I'm on the side of drones and going after their families (and they happen to all be Muslim, know matter the group of Muslim they are) and on the side of not patting down 80 year old grandmothers at the airport. Sorry if you don't like it.

[manaboutown]

Thomas Jefferson was the first American President who stood up to Muslim terrorism. In his day it was the Barbary Coast pirates who were about as inhumane as today's Muslim terrorists. He sent the US Marines who developed and used leather collars to protect themselves from beheadings by swords during battles. Thus Marines became known as leathernecks.

[circletrack]

Originally Posted by TheDude

Everyone is anti-racist until someone you don't identify with moves next door to you which comes with their visiting family and their 19-23 year old sons who visit Syria/Afghan often). There is a lot of high-horses here. None of you would move to Fuller Park in Chicago. And I really bet its a rare bird if any of you would want assimilation in THIER neighborhood.

As to the newspaper article, their job is selling papers, and they use multiple sources to fill the pages. Nothing wrong with the paper. We do have to realize that in other places in the world you would not see Christmas posted in their paper. Be glad we only have to read it. Everyone is also allowed their opinion, and those who post they are so welcoming should think that others truly are fearful and you should respect them. Don't throw rocks in glass houses as their may be something in your closet that others may not agree with.

Back to the Muslim religion. They are the terrorists for most part (yes, there is a rare bird who snapped). Muslims changed the world (airports, police with assault weapons, watching for bags without owners). Until it happens once, I cannot recall an 80 year old grandmother terrorist suicide bomber however that 80 year old grandmother has to take off her shoes at the airport and even be patted down to be politically correct. makes no sense at all. I believe every terrorist had a family and their family knew/knows something wasn't right. And not reporting it is as bad as actually doing it. They should be responsible also, and sadly, they may be good practicing Muslims.

How do you fix it? Probably can't but can weaken them. Its now a fact of life. Muslim isn't a nationality, its a choice, and so are radical Muslims. US and UN just needs to drone and kill the bad guys; and then soon the leaders of ISIS will not be as smart as the dead ones. Then it will be easier to catch the mistakes. Its all that can be done.

To conclude: The newspaper article wasn't bad, but it pushed buttons of those with fears and who thought is was disrespectful and it was expressed.

To each their own; I'm on the side of drones and going after their families (and they happen to all be Muslim, know matter the group of Muslim they are) and on the side of not patting down 80 year old grandmothers at the airport. Sorry if you don't like it.

I 100% understand that people are afraid. And it's unfortunate. IMO their fears have grown for the wrong reasons including religious discrimination and racism.

No, I would not want to move into Fuller park. And not because of the color of the skin or religion of the people that live there. But because of the crime rate. I have the ability to separate the two.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

Thomas Jefferson was the first American President who stood up to Muslim terrorism. In his day it was the Barbary Coast pirates who were about as inhumane as today's Muslim terrorists. He sent the US Marines who developed and used leather collars to protect themselves from beheadings by swords during battles. Thus Marines became known as leathernecks.

They were pirates. Not known to be a nice class of people by in large.