Narrow Multi-Modal Paths

Closed Thread
Thread Tools
  #16  
Old 07-17-2023, 06:14 AM
msilagy msilagy is offline
Veteran member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 507
Thanks: 105
Thanked 485 Times in 217 Posts
Default

Do not drive your golf cart like you are in a car and you should be fine. Yield until you have a very clear path to merge even if you have to stop before merging and all should be well.. Most killed pull out in front of cars that cannot stop. Old age, misguided distance, whatever, it can be a kiss of death!
  #17  
Old 07-17-2023, 07:17 AM
thelegges's Avatar
thelegges thelegges is offline
Sage
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Drayton Plains, MI, Vietnam, Waterford, MI, Pennacamp, Fernandina, Duval, 1 retired in Richmond
Posts: 2,614
Thanks: 17
Thanked 1,862 Times in 724 Posts
Default

This my 3rd summer in TV, not sure why but no matter north or south, the carts on paths seem to be driving more erratic than usual. Driving down the center of mmp instead of their lane. It’s not like there is a car or curb to be afraid of. My guess if “I own this path, and nobody is going to pass me.

The paths along the road in the north are narrow, so I am finding while driving a car, many carts are driving on the line, or into car lane. Sometimes unexpectedly jerking into the cars path. Not young visitors, but very seasoned elderly cart drivers
  #18  
Old 07-17-2023, 07:19 AM
Bay Kid's Avatar
Bay Kid Bay Kid is offline
Sage
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: The Villages and the Northern Neck on the Chesapeake Bay, VA.
Posts: 6,144
Thanks: 1,695
Thanked 3,471 Times in 1,531 Posts
Default

The scenic, safer way is to up to Glenview Country Club and take El Camino. Pretty cart ride and you avoid Morse Blvd.
  #19  
Old 07-17-2023, 07:20 AM
JGibson JGibson is offline
Veteran member
Join Date: Oct 2022
Location: Paradise City
Posts: 771
Thanks: 1
Thanked 713 Times in 301 Posts
Default

I know someone who went up on 2 wheels with their cart on LSL Bridge.

They hit the curb where the yellow paint was very faded at the time, and they have since repainted the edge of the curb.

If you didn't know the sidewalks don’t go continually over the bridge and a curb starts and stops at certain sections and it was dark I can see how this can happen.

She wasn't speeding because she is one of those folks who don't go over 15mph on the regular MMP. lol

That bridge was made with cost savings in mind and not necessarily safety.
  #20  
Old 07-17-2023, 08:25 AM
SIRE1 SIRE1 is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 449
Thanks: 1
Thanked 571 Times in 187 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael 61 View Post
Been here 7 months now, and Lake Sumter has been my limit of how far north I have travelled by golf cart. Today, I finally decided to drive my cart up to Spanish Springs and over the original multi-modal bridge to the “historic section”. Was surprised how narrow the path was across Lake Sumter on Morse Blvd / the low clearance of the tunnel under Morse Blvd / the closeness that one shares the road with cars north of 466 on Morse Blvd / and then the very narrow width of the bridge over the highway to the “historic section”.

Interesting to contrast with the multi-modal paths south of Lake Sumter.

I had visited Orange Blossom once before briefly - and drove around Silver Lake today for the first time. It was interesting to see — very different “vibe” and look from the rest of The Villages, especially for me, living south of 44. Their deeds and restrictions are obviously very different from other parts of The Villages. I went inside the Silver Lake Rec Center - spoke with very nice elderly gentleman who was the front-desk person, who gave me a mini-tour and shared with me the history of the area. Nice big room with 8 well-kept billiard tables. Also, the Rec Center has the largest “jigsaw puzzle” library in The Villages.
I ended up over at Orange Blossom CC - they were having “Disco Night”.

Glad to have finally made the trip up North by cart, but now that I have done it, I think I will go back to my car for any travels north of Lake Sumter - the narrow paths are just a tad unnerving.
You are correct about the narrow MMP north of 466. But before we say "WHY DID THEY MAKE THEM SO NARROW", we have to look at a little history first. When we started visiting friends in The Villages in 2000 none of the carts had headlights and all carts had to be home before sundown. And there wasn't a Lake Sumter Landing or anything south of 466. There was just a rumor that something might be going in "down south" but it was just farm land.

So there was only minimal cart traffic on Morse Blvd from the few neighborhoods near 466 and the cart path was adequate. And there was minimal auto traffic going out that gate so crossing Morse Blvd in a cart was no big deal. Then Lake Sumter Landing and all of the development to south happened and all the traffic increased to what it is today. But, what is there was great at the time it was built.

As far as the bridge over Lake Sumter Landing, our friends told me that the narrow cart path was the result of an incident around Tampa (at least I think it was Tampa) where a walker was hit by a car crossing the bridge. So after The Villages started building the bridge, the government changed the regulations and required sidewalks to be installed on all newly built bridges. Even though the bridge was designed with a Multi Modal Path, which includes people walking, they had to put in a sidewalk. That meant the space originally defined as a MMP had to be reduced to the width it is today. And you go from a nice wide MMP on land to a VERY narrow MMP on the bridge.

But if you still want to explore the northern end of The Villages someday, try going up Buena Vista instead. All the paths leading up to that area are nice and wide and the landscaping is really nice. The Buena Vista area was built around 2001 -2003 when The Villages kept improving from what they had learned from the neighborhoods built when they jumped 441 and built Spanish Springs. And if you haven't seen it yet, there is even a POLO Field up there. And you can get into Spanish Springs and the historic section by taking El Camino Real from Buena Vista. So it might be worth another trip to the north country. Just a thought.
  #21  
Old 07-17-2023, 08:37 AM
Halsiejan Halsiejan is offline
Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 3
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post
Default Morse road

I’ve lived here 15 years and will never travel by golf cart on Morse north of 466. And since I lived here that cart path has been widen to what you see today. What a waste of money that was.
  #22  
Old 07-17-2023, 08:41 AM
Ken D. Ken D. is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 161
Thanks: 75
Thanked 72 Times in 52 Posts
Default

I believe golf "carts" were more narrow when they built the paths north of 466.
  #23  
Old 07-17-2023, 08:42 AM
Michael 61 Michael 61 is online now
Gold member
Join Date: Jul 2022
Posts: 1,172
Thanks: 1,171
Thanked 2,316 Times in 635 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SIRE1 View Post
You are correct about the narrow MMP north of 466. But before we say "WHY DID THEY MAKE THEM SO NARROW", we have to look at a little history first. When we started visiting friends in The Villages in 2000 none of the carts had headlights and all carts had to be home before sundown. And there wasn't a Lake Sumter Landing or anything south of 466. There was just a rumor that something might be going in "down south" but it was just farm land.

So there was only minimal cart traffic on Morse Blvd from the few neighborhoods near 466 and the cart path was adequate. And there was minimal auto traffic going out that gate so crossing Morse Blvd in a cart was no big deal. Then Lake Sumter Landing and all of the development to south happened and all the traffic increased to what it is today. But, what is there was great at the time it was built.

As far as the bridge over Lake Sumter Landing, our friends told me that the narrow cart path was the result of an incident around Tampa (at least I think it was Tampa) where a walker was hit by a car crossing the bridge. So after The Villages started building the bridge, the government changed the regulations and required sidewalks to be installed on all newly built bridges. Even though the bridge was designed with a Multi Modal Path, which includes people walking, they had to put in a sidewalk. That meant the space originally defined as a MMP had to be reduced to the width it is today. And you go from a nice wide MMP on land to a VERY narrow MMP on the bridge.

But if you still want to explore the northern end of The Villages someday, try going up Buena Vista instead. All the paths leading up to that area are nice and wide and the landscaping is really nice. The Buena Vista area was built around 2001 -2003 when The Villages kept improving from what they had learned from the neighborhoods built when they jumped 441 and built Spanish Springs. And if you haven't seen it yet, there is even a POLO Field up there. And you can get into Spanish Springs and the historic section by taking El Camino Real from Buena Vista. So it might be worth another trip to the north country. Just a thought.
Thanks - still learning the geography north of 466 - I think I will try out the MMP on Buena Vista - I still need to check out First Responder’s Rec Center - so maybe that will be a golf cart ride there in my near future.
__________________
MICHAEL
*The Village of Richmond*
  #24  
Old 07-17-2023, 09:09 AM
Laker14 Laker14 is offline
Sage
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 2,608
Thanks: 2
Thanked 2,919 Times in 1,058 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael 61 View Post
Thanks - still learning the geography north of 466 - I think I will try out the MMP on Buena Vista - I still need to check out First Responder’s Rec Center - so maybe that will be a golf cart ride there in my near future.
Absolutely! You will notice differences between the MMPs as you travel from your 'hood to the northern boundaries of TV, but the Buena Vista trail, having been designed and developed after they learned a few things from the Morse Road development, is much nicer for cart exploration.
  #25  
Old 07-17-2023, 10:44 AM
Jeremy#1 Jeremy#1 is offline
Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 9
Thanks: 57
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

30 mph is the speed limit. Enjoy the ride!
  #26  
Old 07-17-2023, 10:46 AM
justjim justjim is offline
Sage
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Illinois, Tennesee, Florida, Village of Caroline, Sanibel, LaBelle
Posts: 6,075
Thanks: 61
Thanked 1,705 Times in 723 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jimdecastro View Post
While they're in a roundabouts, getting behind someone on the single lane road that's going 25 to 30 miles an hour is excruciating.
Retired now - why hurry?
__________________
Most people are as happy as they make up their mind to be. Abraham Lincoln
  #27  
Old 07-17-2023, 11:12 AM
OrangeBlossomBaby OrangeBlossomBaby is offline
Sage
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 10,139
Thanks: 8,138
Thanked 11,313 Times in 3,783 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SIRE1 View Post

But if you still want to explore the northern end of The Villages someday, try going up Buena Vista instead. All the paths leading up to that area are nice and wide and the landscaping is really nice. The Buena Vista area was built around 2001 -2003 when The Villages kept improving from what they had learned from the neighborhoods built when they jumped 441 and built Spanish Springs. And if you haven't seen it yet, there is even a POLO Field up there. And you can get into Spanish Springs and the historic section by taking El Camino Real from Buena Vista. So it might be worth another trip to the north country. Just a thought.

You still have to go over the golf cart bridge to get to the historic section. There's no other way there by golf cart unless you cross 441. That's against the law, but doesn't seem to stop some folks.
  #28  
Old 07-17-2023, 11:19 AM
rogerk rogerk is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 377
Thanks: 108
Thanked 117 Times in 80 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy#1 View Post
30 mph is the speed limit. Enjoy the ride!
Where did you see the speed limit on MMP is 30 mph? I believe FL State law says none street legal and non-licensed golf carts are limited to 20 mph. I believe street legal carts are limited to 25 mph.
  #29  
Old 07-17-2023, 11:25 AM
OrangeBlossomBaby OrangeBlossomBaby is offline
Sage
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 10,139
Thanks: 8,138
Thanked 11,313 Times in 3,783 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rogerk View Post
Where did you see the speed limit on MMP is 30 mph? I believe FL State law says none street legal and non-licensed golf carts are limited to 20 mph. I believe street legal carts are limited to 25 mph.
The -street- where golf carts also drive, where they have a designated area to the right of the car lane marked by a white line, has a 30mph speed limit. Non-street-legal golf carts can drive on that street as long as they stay on the right of that white line (except to pass or turn left). Morse Blvd, north of 466, is built that way. The speed limit on Morse, north of 466 is 30. There is also a golf cart lane that can be used by carts, pedestrians, bicycles, rollerbladers, skateboarders, segway riders, mobility scooters, etc. It is a public road lacking sidewalks, but possessing a side-lane for "non-motor-vehicle" traffic.
  #30  
Old 07-17-2023, 12:37 PM
golfing eagles's Avatar
golfing eagles golfing eagles is offline
Sage
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: The Villages
Posts: 13,448
Thanks: 1,209
Thanked 14,492 Times in 4,774 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by justjim View Post
Retired now - why hurry?
Trite, worn out nonsense
Closed Thread

Tags
lake, north, narrow, sumter, cart


You are viewing a new design of the TOTV site. Click here to revert to the old version.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:13 AM.