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You describe muddy paw prints and not bites so it doesn't sound as though you were attacked by the dog.
Folks perhaps not familiar with dog behavior or with fear or distrust of dogs may not be able to tell the difference from an aggressive dog or an excited, playful dog.
Also, assault occurs when one believes (per instructions to the jury on an assult case) that one is under threat of harm. So, they may not have been "attacked", per your point of view, but they were, beyond a doubt, assaulted and had a good case with evidence had they chose to pursue that course.
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Folks perhaps not familiar with dog behavior or with fear or distrust of dogs may not be able to tell the difference from an aggressive dog or an excited, playful dog.
Also, assault occurs when one believes (per instructions to the jury on an assult case) that one is under threat of harm. So, they may not have been "attacked", per your point of view, but they were, beyond a doubt, assaulted and had a good case with evidence had they chose to pursue that course.
Yeah, okay, let us know how that works out for your clients.
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The Sumter County Animal Control Ordinance.

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Yeah that area isn't Villages property. You and the dog owners are all trespassing. You breaks the law, you takes your chances.
I just checked out the powerlines that run along De La Vista Executive golf course. If you go to the County Appraisers website, the land on which the power lines are erected is owned by Village Center Community Development District 1. The course is owned by Village Center Community Development District.

I believe that the power lines have an easement that allows them to run their lines through the Villages property.

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Yeah, okay, let us know how that works out for your clients.
Glad to let you know.
First, I have studied law, but I am not an attorney. No clients.
Second, I was on a jury for an assault case where one person thought they were threatened by another individual. The judge on this case instructed the jury that actual contact is not required for one to be guilty of assault. Only that the victim perceived some kind of possible threat. Basically, bullying, in any form, amounts to assault.
The jury found the defendant guilty of assault in the second degree, as I recall. There was time served and fines.
Be careful of your actions.
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The Sumter County Animal Control Ordinance.

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Direct control shall mean immediate and continuous physical control of an animal at all times such as by means of a fence, leash, cord, or chain of sufficient strength to restrain the animal; or in the case of specifically trained working, agricultural or hunting animals which immediately respond to such commands, while working; direct control shall also include aural or oral control, if the controlling person is at all times clearly and fully within the unobstructed sight and hearing of the animal.
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My practical & good advice would be to find somewhere else to walk. There are many great walking paths available in the Villages. You will probably find somewhere that you enjoy more.
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My practical & good advice would be to find somewhere else to walk. There are many great walking paths available in the Villages. You will probably find somewhere that you enjoy more.
Hmmm, I don’t think so. If this is their regular walk they should not have to flee from their spot because of a dog. From what I noticed, it isn’t dogs that are buying property and paying taxes in TV. And while TV is promoted as a dog friendly place (rightly, in my opinion) it should also be promoted that it is a people friendly place as well. We can’t count on individual owners, some are exemplary, others are close the opposite or perhaps demented, so enforcement is required.

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My practical & good advice would be to find somewhere else to walk. There are many great walking paths available in the Villages. You will probably find somewhere that you enjoy more.
The areas in question have walking paths and mmp paths. Then again if an unleash dog jumps on a human causes human to fall, hit their head, causing a fracture or worse a brain bleed, that would be ok, after all dog was just being friendly.
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the "leash law" in the villages, is essentially 2 pronged. The villages has a prohibition the requires a dog to be leashed, on tv property. The county has an ordinance, about dogs being always leashed.

Golfingeagles mention the "utility easement", which may or may not prohibit the right to "pass and re-pass" over and through and it may specify who has those rights. Without seeing the specific language of the easement, it's impossible to know.

In others words, you're sort of in a "no man's land". If it was public property, it would be subject to county or local ordinances (which very from locality to locality, but essentially prohibit dogs/animals from roaming about unleashe).

If it was villages property .... A parking lot or such, tv is in control and the enforcing authority.

If it was a dog coming into your hard, you'd be back with at the county/local level.

On the easement, the owner has the right to allow or disallow, whatever they wish to allow or prohibit (within reason).

I have a dog. He's at one of tv's dog parks, every single day. If i walked somewhere and an unleashed dog came anywhere near me, with a wagging tail, i would pet the dog and tell the owner he needs to keep his pet on a leash, as required. If a dog came at me and looking even marginally aggressive, i'd shoot with with whatever i had available. There's no excuse for a dog owner to have his pet, unleashed, unless it's confined to his own property. Jmoymmv.
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The areas in question have walking paths and mmp paths. Then again if an unleash dog jumps on a human causes human to fall, hit their head, causing a fracture or worse a brain bleed, that would be ok, after all dog was just being friendly.
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After years of seeing elder fractures and brain bleeds, from falls couple of incidents are pretty common. Fall in the tub or shower, fall on stairs, trip or pushed by a pet, either their own or someone else’s.

One can find pets will be surrendered by the elderly for reason of health, enter assisted living, or trip and fall, causing fractures, head injuries, or worse. Not only are they devastated by the lost of their pet, recovery is long and painful.
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Carry a squirt gun loaded with vinegar or ammonia. I do when biking thru neighborhoods. Over the years I have had to use mine a couple of times against dogs aggressively running off their owner's yards. It sent them packing every time.
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The dog.

Have you ever seen a child (or adult), mauled by a dog? it's not a pretty sight.

Florida "Stand Your Ground Law" applies to attacks by animals. You have no obligation to do anything, other use whatever force you reasonably think is necessary to defend yourself.

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