[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Velvet

Why, why, why would anybody harm an obedient dog? That is just following the owner’s expectations?

If the owner was not acting responsible and the dog presented a clear and present danger the dog may be the best option for neutralizing the danger.

[Maker]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

You say that the dog owners walk into your yard uninvited. That is downright un-neighborly. They say that 2 wrongs don't make a right, but a Red Rider BB gun used covertly might be an option. The BBs are traveling at low velocity and if it hit the dog in the rear end, it would not break the skin. Other options would be to throw fireworks or set up mouse traps, which would snap and startle the dog. A small air horn like used to scare bears away could startle the dog. And dogs have very sensitive hearing. A water cannon with a little bit of ammonia in it might work. Use of bear spray would keep it away.
.........The is also products sold at hardware stores that the smell keeps deer and raccoons away. It has a name like "critter-ritter".

Shooting at a dog is animal abuse. Even using a BB.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Maker

Shooting at a dog is animal abuse. Even using a BB.

And if it is with its owner nearby it is a lot worse.

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[Velvet]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

If the owner was not acting responsible and the dog presented a clear and present danger the dog may be the best option for neutralizing the danger.

In some rural areas dogs are used as guard dogs. When one goes walking (not on private property) these dogs often warn with a growl to stay off their property. Postal carriers etc walk with a significant stick and in an immediate attack scenario, use rocks too. Most dogs back off except, highly trained ones. But it is self defense. I wouldn’t categorize using your lawn as a personal attack. In my opinion, it is not the dog, it is the owner you need to train.

[Jayhawk]

Originally Posted by Velvet

In my opinion, it is not the dog, it is the owner you need to train.

Groundhog Day. Again.

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by Jayhawk

Groundhog Day. Again.

When the dog tells the owner what to do, I’ll reverse my position. I don’t understand why owners try to justify their anti social behavior though. Do you?

[Jayhawk]

Originally Posted by Velvet

When the dog tells the owner what to do, I’ll reverse my position. I don’t understand why owners try to justify their anti social behavior though. Do you?

This approach is way more "anti-social" than a dog doing the same thing the rabbits, squirrels, rats, mice, snakes, bugs, birds, coyotes, foxes, and who knows what else does in your yard. And they NEVER pick it up. The dog owners do 99+% of the time. And why don't all of those wild critters damage the yard? Because it is less of an issue than the fertilizer and pest control you put on your grass.

Relax. Take a breath. Get to know people and dogs without letting it drive you mad.

Hey, you asked.

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by Jayhawk

This approach is way more "anti-social" than a dog doing the same thing the rabbits, squirrels, rats, mice, snakes, bugs, birds, coyotes, foxes, and who knows what else does in your yard. And they NEVER pick it up. The dog owners do 99+% of the time. And why don't all of those wild critters damage the yard? Because it is less of an issue than the fertilizer and pest control you put on your grass.

Relax. Take a breath. Get to know people and dogs without letting it drive you mad.

Hey, you asked.

You seem to miss/ignore the point that wild animals are not under the supervision of human owners. The owners are well aware of what their dog is doing. One neighbor I have written about previously, has had brain surgery relatively recently. It looked like he was not going to make it. He had to learn to talk and walk again (praise the Lord). I just saw him again this morning. He walks on the street with his little pooch and what even surgery didn’t take from him, is to stay off people’s lawns. So what;s wrong with the other people?

[golfing eagles]

This is way off topic, but..........

Has anybody noticed that dog poop threads go on for hundreds of threads, roundabout threads have a life of their own, but climate change threads started by a weather club member who doubts the narrative of manmade climate change get closed pretty quickly. Anyone suspect an agenda?

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

This is way off topic, but..........

Has anybody noticed that dog poop threads go on for hundreds of threads, roundabout threads have a life of their own, but climate change threads started by a weather club member who doubts the narrative of manmade climate change get closed pretty quickly. Anyone suspect an agenda?

Point made. Thanks.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Velvet

Point made. Thanks.

Now, want to guess the over/under on how long that post lasts? (Which would actually further make my point)

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

This is way off topic, but..........

Has anybody noticed that dog poop threads go on for hundreds of threads, roundabout threads have a life of their own, but climate change threads started by a weather club member who doubts the narrative of manmade climate change get closed pretty quickly. Anyone suspect an agenda?

Well if the poop stinks....

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Velvet

In some rural areas dogs are used as guard dogs. When one goes walking (not on private property) these dogs often warn with a growl to stay off their property. Postal carriers etc walk with a significant stick and in an immediate attack scenario, use rocks too. Most dogs back off except, highly trained ones. But it is self defense. I wouldn’t categorize using your lawn as a personal attack. In my opinion, it is not the dog, it is the owner you need to train.

Yes. But in rare instances owners may not be present, dogs could be feral/wild or rabid. That is why I say dog is not usually the problem. There is a possibility of unforseen circumstances.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Jayhawk

This approach is way more "anti-social" than a dog doing the same thing the rabbits, squirrels, rats, mice, snakes, bugs, birds, coyotes, foxes, and who knows what else does in your yard. And they NEVER pick it up. The dog owners do 99+% of the time. And why don't all of those wild critters damage the yard? Because it is less of an issue than the fertilizer and pest control you put on your grass.

Relax. Take a breath. Get to know people and dogs without letting it drive you mad.

Hey, you asked.

Bringing wildlife into the discussion is just a deflection, an attempt to draw away from the subject, which is social responsibility and respect for the right of property owners. Wild creatures can and do damage our yards. Mole crickets, but we can poison, crush and kill them with impunity. If your neighbor owned a cow, coyote or mole cricket, he/she should not allow them into your yard. It's not about the dog! It's about the owner!

[Jayhawk]

Originally Posted by Velvet

You seem to miss/ignore the point that wild animals are not under the supervision of human owners. The owners are well aware of what their dog is doing. One neighbor I have written about previously, has had brain surgery relatively recently. It looked like he was not going to make it. He had to learn to talk and walk again (praise the Lord). I just saw him again this morning. He walks on the street with his little pooch and what even surgery didn’t take from him, is to stay off people’s lawns. So what;s wrong with the other people?

You seem to miss the point.

WHAT. DOES. IT. MATTER?

Who cares? If the poop being picked up isn't bothering you, and you seem to acknowledge the other animals do the same without having it removed, why cause yourself heartburn? It is not harming your yard despite what some few people seem to think. The end of our street has a light pole. Every dog without fail whizzes on the thing. Guess what? The grass is greener and stronger than most of the yards. People need to get over themselves.