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The lot as is the hundreds of million dollar homesbuilt around TV on prairie, or lakes is not problematic. Post is about, did you leave grass or mulch, or rock, behind your pool in the easement. There are over 100 homes being built with the same brick retaining wall, with a short metal fence, in this village. Not many will accommodate a pool like our lot. We can have a pool design at Design Team meeting, or do pool after market. If developers aren’t concerned about the multitude of lots why would we
Pool Design team meeting. Perfect people to ask. They deal with it all the time.
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Pool Design team meeting. Perfect people to ask. They deal with it all the time.
Actually my post was about, did you leave grass in your easement, or use mulch, or rock, behind your pool. We already know we can go with any of the three.

The post you responded to was a person who wanted to know why we bought a problematic lot, guessing they have no idea there are retaining walls along prairie, and lake property.

Pool design and the retaining wall is not the issue, but at least the gators won’t climb the wall to get to our house
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I would go to ARC and find the specifics of what would be allowed in the right of way. We also have a 20 foot right of way at the back of our house, left it in grass. I at the time we built I asked about hedges to match some that were nearby, and was told NO. Remember this is a right of way, so some time in the future you may find construction equipment and workers in this area. Personally, I would leave a grass, and then have a low wall OFF the right of way close to the pool to block grass clippings and irrigation water from getting into the pool.
On a side note, you state the wall etc were not a concern. IMHO, I would double check to see if this area is fill, if so I would be very concerned about a pool located in an area that was "fill", settlement could pose a lot of problems from minor leaks to major cracks. While doing the pool later will probably have a year to 18 months lead time, it would give you time to see if there are any problems in this area.
I wish you a lot of luck on your plans.
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We are building on a lot that has a retaining wall topped with iron fence. Drop is about 8 feet, with easement of 7.5 feet from the lot line.

We will be adding a pool after market, wondering what you did with landscape in the easement. We have trees, and green space view. Can’t plant in the easement, so did you, Leave grass to mow, or mulch area?

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Maybe look at using ground cover plants in lieu of grass.

I tend to pay attention to what the Villages uses for low maintenance areas along roadways and paths.
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That is the perfect setup for stair step block cracking and foundation cracking showing up all over your home once it is built. The soil is sand. 8' of fill sand AND a pool AND a retaining wall? Crack, Crack, Crack. Consider another LOT asap before it is too late.
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Old 08-19-2022, 06:32 AM
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That is the perfect setup for stair step block cracking and foundation cracking showing up all over your home once it is built. The soil is sand. 8' of fill sand AND a pool AND a retaining wall? Crack, Crack, Crack. Consider another LOT asap before it is too late.
I am guessing you have not travel anywhere near Evans Prairie, or any lake. There are hundreds of million dollar homes with same retaining wall. You might want to add the mine blasts, turnpike vibration, for a better effect to scare people.
Since you are a Newer 2020 poster, it seems one wants to create fear. Many scare posts come from agents that can’t sell new houses. There are 150 homes with the same retaining wall, in Richmond. Guess you don’t know the process of building a home in TV. Deposit is non refundable, on the lot you choose. There are no other lots available to purchase, all were sold in minutes.
Thanks for playing, but we have been in TV since 07, not a clueless wannabe.
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That is the perfect setup for stair step block cracking and foundation cracking showing up all over your home once it is built. The soil is sand. 8' of fill sand AND a pool AND a retaining wall? Crack, Crack, Crack. Consider another LOT asap before it is too late.
Have you noticed all the high piles of dirt and prep work they do on land starting two years before development?

This starts with geological drilling to understand the subsurface. These are the white spots you see on old Google maps.

Organic areas are removed and replaced with compactable fill.

Huge piles of of dirt are placed where needed and left up to a year to compact the soil and ensure it is stable.

Then it is all removed and the subsurface infrastructure is put in from the bottom up prior to construction.
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Never put mulch near a pool. It is always washing in and do not use any shedding landscape more cleaning, my experience from being a pool owner
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I would do rock and keep a bottle of ground clear because weeds here grow in concrete. Lol QUOTE=asianthree;2127336]The lot as is the hundreds of million dollar homesbuilt around TV on prairie, or lakes is not problematic. Post is about, did you leave grass or mulch, or rock, behind your pool in the easement. There are over 100 homes being built with the same brick retaining wall, with a short metal fence, in this village. Not many will accommodate a pool like our lot. We can have a pool design at Design Team meeting, or do pool after market. If developers aren’t concerned about the multitude of lots why would we[/QUOTE]
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Our pool construction starts in February. Our 7’ easement in the back will be filled with mulch (don’t like the Arizona rock look) and be a large planting bed. We will use low growing plants so they don’t hide our view. It’s my understanding from the zoning laws that nothing “permanent “ is to be built in that easement, and plants don’t fall under the permanent category. However, I bet trees would be considered permanent. You will find out when your landscaper puts the plans through ARC.
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I would go to ARC and find the specifics of what would be allowed in the right of way. We also have a 20 foot right of way at the back of our house, left it in grass. I at the time we built I asked about hedges to match some that were nearby, and was told NO. Remember this is a right of way, so some time in the future you may find construction equipment and workers in this area. Personally, I would leave a grass, and then have a low wall OFF the right of way close to the pool to block grass clippings and irrigation water from getting into the pool.
On a side note, you state the wall etc were not a concern. IMHO, I would double check to see if this area is fill, if so I would be very concerned about a pool located in an area that was "fill", settlement could pose a lot of problems from minor leaks to major cracks. While doing the pool later will probably have a year to 18 months lead time, it would give you time to see if there are any problems in this area.
I wish you a lot of luck on your plans.
We did have a conversation about any of the 150 lots on the same retaining wall. Apparently the wall was added instead of have a severe slope to the wet lands, so no fill. There isn’t any water or wet land at our end, just lots of vegetation, and trees.
The top of the wall is almost even with the back of our lot, the decorative fence on the top of wall, that I am guessing could be a deterrent from going in the prairie. Design team has already sent potential pool designs, by T&D at build. There will be about 30 feet to the easement from back of our house. We are just on the fence of adding a pool, since the neighborhood pool is just a block away, along with the dog park.
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We have been in the Villages since 07, Know the rules. This will be our 4th home.
I am looking for someone who has a home, like our lot, are you mowing or mulching. Since the pool will be along the easement, what is their experience

We already know we have both options at our design team meeting. So your post is what I expected, from someone who does not have a lot on a prairie. But thank for participating
So, these days the swamp is called the praire 😂😂😂
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So, these days the swamp is called the praire 😂😂😂
Up north it’s a swamp, anywhere in Florida as you drive by “wetlands” the sign says prairie.

Maybe a prairie is protected. Not sure of definition, maybe some areas have standing water, and some are just vegetation. Driving up to Gainesville there are 3 named prairie’s, one looks dry, one with some water, and the other looks like a lake.
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Up north it’s a swamp, anywhere in Florida as you drive by “wetlands” the sign says prairie.

Maybe a prairie is protected. Not sure of definition, maybe some areas have standing water, and some are just vegetation. Driving up to Gainesville there are 3 named prairie’s, one looks dry, one with some water, and the other looks like a lake.
The glorified swamp behind our Villages home is referred to as a wildlife preserve. Right now it’s almost dry, after Hurricane Irma it was a lake, typically it’s a swamp. The diverse wildlife living in the swamp is spectacular and the privacy and sunsets it provides us is priceless.
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Up north it’s a swamp, anywhere in Florida as you drive by “wetlands” the sign says prairie.

Maybe a prairie is protected. Not sure of definition, maybe some areas have standing water, and some are just vegetation. Driving up to Gainesville there are 3 named prairie’s, one looks dry, one with some water, and the other looks like a lake.
According to Google, the word prairie comes from the French word for meadow. Prairies are generally free of trees and are filled with low bushes etc. In Florida there are dry prairies and wet prairies and are protected. Google also provides definition of wetlands such as swamps and marshes. Swamps are predominantly forested (e.g. Hogeye). Marshes/prairies have few if any trees but are home to grasses and herbaceous plants. I am not sure what your location looks like but prairie sounds more inviting than swamp when you are selling land.

One of your notes states that there is no fill. I believe that there is fill. I believe that the wall is built on the edge of the land defined as wetlands. The wall is constructed to allow the uplands section to be filled to gain more flat land for development. If you can find old topographic maps online pre development you can check it out. The metal fence has been used extensively in TV to demarcate the edge of wetlands or keep out areas.
If fill was used it is very likely that sand was used. Sand is a good fill since it compacts quickly. As long as the wall stays in place you should be fine based on Soils Engineering 1966.
You certainly have done a lot of work to get your lot and house plans together. Good Luck!
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