[thevillages2013]

Stay away from Jenkins dealerships . I know they are close and convenient but they are going to get in your wallet. Paid 9k less in Ocala for the same Honda Ridgeline.

[defrey12]

Originally Posted by CarlR33

So at the end of the day he is saying the $1,298 maybe negotiable. Personally, I would look at certified used and save a few thousand. Interesting your concerned about a few hundred when the vehicle will plummet in resale value by thousands once you drive it off the lot (the unseen cost). Another way to think about saving?

Good idea...look for something a couple of years old. I have NEVER purchased a new car. Ever...in my 68 years.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by defrey12

... I have NEVER purchased a new car. Ever...in my 68 years.

Isn't that like taking sex advice from a Catholic priest? Who in theory, doesn't have sex?

[billlaur]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

A car dealer's electronic registration filing fee, often part of the dealer's doc fee or processing fee, is a separate charge for the dealer to handle the electronic submission of title and registration paperwork on the buyer's behalf. The fee's name and amount vary by state and even by dealership, as some states have legal limits on what can be charged. It is not a government-mandated fee, but rather a service charge by the dealer.

Everything is negotiated..just ask for the OTD ,out the door price..if you feel it’s a good deal go for it,if not walk away….

[billlaur]

You should b able to get a deal for about 10% below msrp..shoot for that ..good luck to you.its a real adventure buying a new car.may the spirit b with you..

[ROCKETMAN]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

The old adage still prevails, you get what you pay for.

Hyundai's pricing structure and philosophy, generally allows dealers to show customers larger "discounts" than Toyota, Honda or VW.

If you don't care about resale value or brand prestige, you can usually get a lot of car for your money, with Hyundai or Kia.

I have leased both of these cars for 20 years and other than two oil changes a year, have never visited the dealership. I think you get more vehicle for your money and the ride feels like the higher end vehicles.

[JRcorvette]

All those fees are just profits for the dealer and the markup is about 90%. You can try to negotiate them but be prepared to “walk out”. Always have the give you the “out the door” price with a breakdown. As mentioned above you should probably hire a car buying service but do some research on who you hire. Go on YouTube and do a search. You will get a better deal in Orlando or Tampa than local.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by billlaur

You should b able to get a deal for about 10% below msrp..shoot for that ..good luck to you.its a real adventure buying a new car.may the spirit b with you..

Considering the average markup from Dealer Invoice to MSRP is less than 8%, good luck.

[retiredguy123]

I tried to use the free Costco buying service, but I got the feeling that the dealer was just using the service to get customers in the door. The only thing they offered was a discount on maintenance services that I would never use at a dealership anyway. Costco was no help at all, and they couldn't even explain why I should use their service, except for the maintenance discounts.

[jimkerr]

Originally Posted by alfalfa

I haven't purchased a car in over 20 years; so I'm not sure which fees, if any, are negotiable. For instance, a dealer lists (in the fine print) a pre-delivery service fee of $1,298, a tag agency fee of $189, and an electronic registration filing fee of $598 for a total of $2,085.

That seems to be a little steep. Are any of these fees negotiable? Or, are they carved in granite?

Reply to the thread or PM me at alfalfa.

The tag fee is the only fee I’d pay for. The others are just junk fees.


If you want a hassle free way to buy a car, go to caredge.com

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Remember the goal, the acquisition for transportation by a piece of future junk at the lowest cost to you:

The extra charges can all stay, the cost of the car pre extra fees is the negotiation point. Play their game in reverse, which all results in the same final cost to you, and always get dealer financing, and then pay off the loan afterwards. The dealer will appreciate that, and you will get a better price. . .

However, if the goal is the acquisition of transportation at the lowest cost to you,a 3 year old, low mileage, certified used car is your best opportunity due to the largest percentage of depreciation having already occurred, and the opportunity for a long period of ownership at a low milage per year in a saltless environment is priceless. There will be minimal fees, lots of opportunities, and you can still negotiate if you want, and not compete with dealer incentives. .

Cars are not investments, the average car is all future junk, and why waste extra money on future junk?
behavioral finance operates here, where rational purchases are overridden by human emotions and biases.

good luck to us out there!

[opinionist]

The total cost can be negotiated regardless of the details. If you are willing to walk away from a deal, that will save you the most money.

[nn0wheremann]

Originally Posted by alfalfa

I haven't purchased a car in over 20 years; so I'm not sure which fees, if any, are negotiable. For instance, a dealer lists (in the fine print) a pre-delivery service fee of $1,298, a tag agency fee of $189, and an electronic registration filing fee of $598 for a total of $2,085.

That seems to be a little steep. Are any of these fees negotiable? Or, are they carved in granite?

Reply to the thread or PM me at alfalfa.

Everything is negotiable, one way or another. The licence fee may be fixed, so knock $200 off the price. If they don’t like your offer, remember that is not the only dealership, and that is not the only car.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by opinionist

The total cost can be negotiated regardless of the details. If you are willing to walk away from a deal, that will save you the most money.

I agree. The OP listed bogus fees that total $2,085. Why would you attempt to negotiate fees that are bogus to begin with? Any negotiation of these fees tells the salesperson that you agree that the fees are legitimate and the only thing in question is how much they should cost. The only number that should be discussed is the out-the-door price.

[MikeVillages]

I recommend watching YouTube videos like “Kevin Hunter The Homework Guy” & others on youtube for info on buying cars.

Many dealers will state fees are not negotiable because they could be accused of discrimination if they don't charge the same fee to everyone. Apparently Florida is the worst for excessive fees. However the Out The Door" price is negotiable but difficult. You need to do a lot of research to negotiate and don't believe them when they say this is the price they pay as I get hold backs from the manufacturers for lower price and incentives.