[MX rider]

Originally Posted by Robbb

How much service do these things really require? Maybe change the 8 oz of oil every year or so, thats about it. What else is needed?

Just had my 2018 Yamaha serviced by Todd Casey. Did it at my house. $117. Took about 30 minutes. Takes a quart of oil. They change oil, spark plug and air filter, and inspect other items like belts etc.

I would have done it myself but my floor jack is back in Indiana, so I would have a tough time getting the skid plate off and on.

$117 isn't terrible, imo.

[biker1]

Apparently, a number of people are pumping oil out through the dip stick hole instead of bothering to remove the skip plate and draining via the drain plug. I don't have that issue with an older Yamaha.

Originally Posted by MX rider

Just had my 2018 Yamaha serviced by Todd Casey. Did it at my house. $117. Took about 30 minutes. Takes a quart of oil. They change oil, spark plug and air filter, and inspect other items like belts etc.

I would have done it myself but my floor jack is back in Indiana, so I would have a tough time getting the skid plate off and on.

$117 isn't terrible, imo.

[LeRoySmith]

Originally Posted by PoolBrews

Go to Botero Carts in Ocala. Their forward facing 4 seater, the Evolution D5, has more features than the Star and is $12K with the standard lithium battery, and $14K with the larger battery (205ah). This pricing is more inline with what I would expect given the build and technology for golf carts. I absolutely love mine!

I recently bought an Evolution D5 from Hidden Creek golf carts, $13900 (including tax) out the door with a 205aH battery. We get about 6 miles per 10% charge (a little over 65 miles per full charge) at 20mph with 2 people. This was a good way to dip my toe in the electric vehicle world with not a lot of investment or risk. I like the quiet and performance so far but it's very early, time well tell.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by LeRoySmith

I recently bought an Evolution D5 from Hidden Creek golf carts, $13900 (including tax) out the door with a 205aH battery. We get about 6 miles per 10% charge (a little over 65 miles per full charge) at 27mph with 2 people. This was a good way to dip my toe in the electric vehicle world with not a lot of investment or risk. I like the quiet and performance so far but it's very early, time well tell.

You may want to be careful about publicly admitting to operating a vehicle that is illegal in Florida, or calling out the business that sold it.

[Normal]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

You may want to be careful about publicly admitting to operating a vehicle that is illegal in Florida, or calling out the business that sold it.

It can go that fast, you just can’t drive it that fast. Cars can do 100 plus, but you will get ticketed if you continue at that speed.

[4$ALE]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

You may want to be careful about publicly admitting to operating a vehicle that is illegal in Florida, or calling out the business that sold it.

I agree ..... but then I'm "NOT" Normal.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Normal

It can go that fast, you just can’t drive it that fast. Cars can do 100 plus, but you will get ticketed if you continue at that speed.

That is not how the Florida law is written.

If it *can* go no more than 20mph then it can be considered a golf cart and requires no registration.
If it *can* go no more than 25mph then it can be considered a low speed vehicle (LSV) and does require registration.
If it *does* go 27mph then it is neither a golf cart nor an LSV. I don't know what Florida would consider it to be but it would certainly require registration if it was allowed on the roads at all.

Perhaps the 27mph vehicle *is* registered
Perhaps the 27mph vehicle was operated *only* on private property and not on the MMPs (since it would require operation on public roads to get to the MMPs)
Perhaps the 27mph was an exaggeration
In any case, being careful is a good idea.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Normal

If you buy a cart from The Villages, you are just a plain lazy shopper looking to burn cash. There are plenty of places to buy new and used where you literally save thousands of dollars and many deliver right to your doorstep!

Or, you're new to the Villages, know that you need to get a golf cart, and don't know your way around very well yet. And you don't realize that golf cart shops outside the Villages deliver, it just doesn't occur to you that it's an option so you don't seek your new cart outside the Villages. You know you can't drive it home, if you buy it outside the Villages since you know you can't drive on the major roads outside the community with a golf cart.

We got our first golf cart at the Villages Golf Car store, because we had JUST moved in and didn't know any better. We didn't know to even ask in advance. We just assumed everyone in the area got them from that store.

It was a used one, hadn't even been cleaned up yet, didn't have a price tag on it yet. But it worked, and it was under $6000 so we drove it home. It turned out to be a terrific little buggy. Our second one we got from a neighbor - and the neighbor bought it new at The Villages Golf Car store.

We weren't lazy. Just uninformed, and we didn't know what we didn't know, and didn't know that we should've asked, or even what questions to ask.

We have learned, however, that people who assume everyone who does something a certain way is lazy - is just judgmental and possibly ignorant or has a profound lack of self confidence that they have to make up for by putting other people down.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by MX rider

Just had my 2018 Yamaha serviced by Todd Casey. Did it at my house. $117. Took about 30 minutes. Takes a quart of oil. They change oil, spark plug and air filter, and inspect other items like belts etc.

I would have done it myself but my floor jack is back in Indiana, so I would have a tough time getting the skid plate off and on.

$117 isn't terrible, imo.

IMO if you’re able just buy cheap floor Jack at harbor freight or Walmart. First oil costs you about 48 bucks the second one 5 to 8 bucks depending on what oil you use.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Or, you're new to the Villages, know that you need to get a golf cart, and don't know your way around very well yet. And you don't realize that golf cart shops outside the Villages deliver, it just doesn't occur to you that it's an option so you don't seek your new cart outside the Villages. You know you can't drive it home, if you buy it outside the Villages since you know you can't drive on the major roads outside the community with a golf cart.

We got our first golf cart at the Villages Golf Car store, because we had JUST moved in and didn't know any better. We didn't know to even ask in advance. We just assumed everyone in the area got them from that store.

It was a used one, hadn't even been cleaned up yet, didn't have a price tag on it yet. But it worked, and it was under $6000 so we drove it home. It turned out to be a terrific little buggy. Our second one we got from a neighbor - and the neighbor bought it new at The Villages Golf Car store.

We weren't lazy. Just uninformed, and we didn't know what we didn't know, and didn't know that we should've asked, or even what questions to ask.

We have learned, however, that people who assume everyone who does something a certain way is lazy - is just judgmental and possibly ignorant or has a profound lack of self confidence that they have to make up for by putting other people down.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

That is not how the Florida law is written.

If it *can* go no more than 20mph then it can be considered a golf cart and requires no registration.
If it *can* go no more than 25mph then it can be considered a low speed vehicle (LSV) and does require registration.
If it *does* go 27mph then it is neither a golf cart nor an LSV. I don't know what Florida would consider it to be but it would certainly require registration if it was allowed on the roads at all.

Perhaps the 27mph vehicle *is* registered
Perhaps the 27mph vehicle was operated *only* on private property and not on the MMPs (since it would require operation on public roads to get to the MMPs)
Perhaps the 27mph was an exaggeration
In any case, being careful is a good idea.

If your LSV goes more than 25 MPH on roads less than 35 miles per you breaking the law. But just like in both cases you have to get caught. Which IMO NOBODY registered golf cart for 5 extra MPH. The do it so they can go 30 Plus and have outrageous low chance of getting caught just like carts that not registered.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Boo!

[metoo21]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

IMO if you’re able just buy cheap floor Jack at harbor freight or Walmart. First oil costs you about 48 bucks the second one 5 to 8 bucks depending on what oil you use.

And get this Fumoto F109SX M12-1.5 Sx Series Drain Valve to make future changes easier.

[Dusty_Star]

Originally Posted by LeRoySmith

I recently bought an Evolution D5 from Hidden Creek golf carts, $13900 (including tax) out the door with a 205aH battery. We get about 6 miles per 10% charge (a little over 65 miles per full charge) at 27mph with 2 people. This was a good way to dip my toe in the electric vehicle world with not a lot of investment or risk. I like the quiet and performance so far but it's very early, time well tell.

Did they deliver the cart to you?

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

If your LSV goes more than 25 MPH on roads less than 35 miles per you breaking the law. But just like in both cases you have to get caught. Which IMO NOBODY registered golf cart for 5 extra MPH. The do it so they can go 30 Plus and have outrageous low chance of getting caught just like carts that not registered.

Wrong.

If the vehicle is capable of going faster than 25mph then it is NOT an LSV. FS 320.01(41)

The chances of getting caught may be low but become greater if you announce on social media that you are operating such a vehicle, particularly if you call out the business that sold it.