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Old 07-30-2013, 07:50 AM
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I love dogs. However, when I watched a neighbor walk her two dogs and stop at my lawn this morning while her dog did his business on my lawn, I was shocked. She was not at the edge but well off the street with the dogs on a long leash in the middle of my lawn and waited a while until the dog decided to do his business on my lawn. Yes, she picked it up and yes, one has limited control over such things. But this behavior was rude, inconsiderate and selfish. Why not walk the dogs on YOUR LAWN? Or since we are a developing village (Hillsborough) with many acres of vacent land, why walk your dogs on your new neighbors lawns? It is just RUDE!
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I love dogs. However, when I watched a neighbor walk her two dogs and stop at my lawn this morning while her dog did his business on my lawn, I was shocked. She was not at the edge but well off the street with the dogs on a long leash in the middle of my lawn and waited a while until the dog decided to do his business on my lawn. Yes, she picked it up and yes, one has limited control over such things. But this behavior was rude, inconsiderate and selfish. Why not walk the dogs on YOUR LAWN? Or since we are a developing village (Hillsborough) with many acres of vacent land, why walk your dogs on your new neighbors lawns? It is just RUDE!
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Hello nysnowbirds. Couldn't agree with your post more, however, if you do a search on this website you will find many, many threads on dog poop. It seems to be a major problem here in TV. Just a heads up.....be ready for a lot of belittling of your complaint.....people putting up the popcorn icon......and the smart responses to your complaint because that's what dog poop threads get. People don't realize how annoying it is to have dog owners walk their dogs on your property. I believe there is a product on the market called "dog be gone"? That you can put down and the dogs will not go near your property. Also, a mixture of ammonia and water sprayed around the parimeter of your lawn, not on the grass, will discourage any animals from entering your property. I expect if you ask the dog owners not to walk their dogs on your property you will encounter a nasty, hostile response from the owner. Just my take on this whole dog poop thing.
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Hello nysnowbirds. Couldn't agree with your post more, however, if you do a search on this website you will find many, many threads on dog poop. It seems to be a major problem here in TV. Just a heads up.....be ready for a lot of belittling of your complaint.....people putting up the popcorn icon......and the smart responses to your complaint because that's what dog poop threads get. People don't realize how annoying it is to have dog owners walk their dogs on your property. I believe there is a product on the market called "dog be gone"? That you can put down and the dogs will not go near your property. Also, a mixture of ammonia and water sprayed around the parimeter of your lawn, not on the grass, will discourage any animals from entering your property. I expect if you ask the dog owners not to walk their dogs on your property you will encounter a nasty, hostile response from the owner. Just my take on this whole dog poop thing.
I will not belittle the OPs post. I don't have a dog, so I don't have a dog in this fight.

To say that there have been MANY, many, many threads on this subject is an understatement. In summary you will hear from dog owners who care deeply about the responsible behavior of their pets, you will not hear at all from those who don't care what you think about their dogs coming into your lawn and pooping and you will have a lot of very intense posts on this thread about every spectrum of this problem.

There are those who move here and quite frankly do NOT like dogs of any kind and may be afraid of them and do not want them around and use the dog poop issue to be "anti-dog". There are those who used to have children that they didn't control or curtail and now they have dogs who they are equally as irresponsible about. There are the majority of folks who do their best to carry a plastic bag, try to get their pooch to poop in "acceptable" places......although there is a HUGE debate on where that is.

There are people like us who have an end lot and never have had any dog or their owner poop on our property, nor did we when we had an interior lot in Hadley. I know the names of all dogs in our 54 home village except the new folks who haven't ventured down this way yet. I think the dogs know my name too.

Other people are not so fortunate and many peoply frankly feel pooped on, because they are. You will have folks tell you to turn the sprinklers on, put pepper spray down and to march right our there and tell the owner what you think. Some people think old Gary Morse should have been smart enough to ban dogs (Boo!) or have dog free villages.I think all of those things might work. But it is what it is.

How will you handle it?

It is a problem for some but not all.
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I used to have 3 dogs when I lived up north, now I have one. When we moved here, she would not use our CYV area to do her business. We took up the rock and put down grass thinking that would do the trick. Nope. We invited our neighbors dog to do his business in our yard thinking she would smell it and get the hint. Nope. What other option do we have besides walking her? The public grassy area by our house is all the way down our street so when she has to poop, I have to walk her all the way down there. What do I do when she goes onto someone else's lawn to do her business because she can't wait, except pick it up? At least I do that. She can't walk totally on the hot pavement so I have to give her a little lead on the leash so she can get into the grass or rock before her pads burn. I'm sorry if my dog goes on someone else's lawn, but I do pick it up.
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Me too I pick up the dog poop and often have at least four plastic bags with which to do this. It is kind of hard to just walk your dog around your own house. That is not much exercise for the owner nor for the dog.
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I think that as long as it's picked up it's not a big deal. I always pick up the poop, urine....Oh well.

I kind of think I'm providing a service for chronic complainers and that's a good thing. If you look back through the thousands of comments on the dog issue you will see the same people time and again with the same complaints. These same people seem to have complaints about everything, soooo... apparently it's not the dogs that are the issue. Sometimes it's easier to focus on the pi$$ant aspects of life than to focus on real issues.

Years ago my shrink told me "Do what makes you happy." It makes me happy to walk the dogs, other people are happy to complain. It's all good.
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Me too I pick up the dog poop and often have at least four plastic bags with which to do this. It is kind of hard to just walk your dog around your own house. That is not much exercise for the owner nor for the dog.
No it's not. I did it every day of the six years we lived in The Villages.

There is no reason a dog can't go in their own yard. They may not want to but if you keep them walking around long enough it will happen. Put the dog on the leash and keep them moving around, even if it's only a ten foot circle, and it will happen. Ctuttle in the time it takes you to walk your dog to the "public" area but your dog can't hold it and goes on a neighbor's lawn, you could have been walking your dog in your own yard and had success there and not be ticking off your neighbors.

My dog knew we did not go for a walk until everything was taken care of first in our own yard.

Sorry, but I don't buy it.
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My dogs poop in the street which I think is disgusting but I have no choice. Sometimes they surprise me on our walk and if they have to go I can't stop it and I wouldn't dare let them enter someone's lawn even though I think it is more sanitary than pooping in the street. Yes I always, always, always pick it up.
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I agree with all the replys. If you read my entire original post the person I observed was particularly RUDE, in that 20 feet away from my lawn is about 200 acres of open undeveloped land where the dogs could do their business. I have owned dogs most of my life and love them. Walked them often and always picked up their stuff even before it was the law as it is in most municipalities. This was just a particularly inconsiderate person.

To be clear - I love dogs - just hate some rude dog owners and I know it is not a reflection on all dog owners - most are appropriate - just this person was not.

Enuf said on an apparently well covered topic. Thanks for all the replies.
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No it's not. I did it every day of the six years we lived in The Villages.

There is no reason a dog can't go in their own yard. They may not want to but if you keep them walking around long enough it will happen. Put the dog on the leash and keep them moving around, even if it's only a ten foot circle, and it will happen. Ctuttle in the time it takes you to walk your dog to the "public" area but your dog can't hold it and goes on a neighbor's lawn, you could have been walking your dog in your own yard and had success there and not be ticking off your neighbors.

My dog knew we did not go for a walk until everything was taken care of first in our own yard.

Sorry, but I don't buy it.

1. Your owning a dog does not mean you own the property rights of your neighbors, period, no excuses.
2. Your or your dog entering neighbor's yard to leave a deposit is a trespass violation with a fine up to $1000, whether picked up or just urine are immaterial.
3. Your picking up poop in the neighbor's yard subjects the neighbor to liability lawsuit if you slip and fall, etc.
4. Your walking your dog in neighbor's yards is not just rude, it's crude, self-centered and uncivilized.
5. You or your dog may be subjected to confrontation by the neighbor or the neighbor's dog, with ensuing legal action.

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Walk to a common area, or transport the dog to a common area, or get an invisible fence. Or give the dog to someone who is responsible.
Doing the easiest thing on the neighbor's yard and rationalizing it away is using poor judgment splashed with self-pity.
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Just my two cents worth.

Personally I ALWAYS walk my mutt in our back yard. She does her business, I pick it up and then we go for a walk.

I try very hard to only walk her in the street - if it is that hot then possibly on the very edge of the lawn. If I see her about to make a deposit, as sometimes happens, (which always mystifies me as she just went) I guide her into the street.

I always carry bags and pick it up as best I can from the street.

Have a neighbor (in So. Fl.) who lets his dog go anywhere. He claims she won't go in his back yard. Sorry - don't buy it. As stated by EnglishIvy keep walking her - she will go. Eventually it will become the norm.
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Ohno another dog poop/ bad owner post.
I suggest you pose all your questions to the person on your lawn.

I also suggest, if you know where the lawn sprinkler control is, dash over and turn it on when they are on your lawn!!

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Ohno another dog poop/ bad owner post.
I suggest you pose all your questions to the person on your lawn.

I also suggest, if you know where the lawn sprinkler control is, dash over and turn it on when they are on your lawn!!

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Great idea !

C'mon btk - we haven't had a poop thread in a few weeks.
Don't want the subject to get old and stinky !
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