[Ooper]

Also ... keep in mind that "climate controlled" square footage takes into account the outside measurement of the controlled area, not the room size. Climate controlled square footage costs more than say garage square footage so builders will get more $$$ by maximizing the controlled area. If you have 2 interior garage walls, the controlled area is measured from the inside of the garage, not the inside of the controlled area. This doesn't seem like a lot, but with a concrete block house, it could mean a difference of 150-300 square foot difference of the controlled area increasing the price of the home.

[Yoda]

Gee, what possible motivation could there be to change the measurement?

Hmm, do you think?

[collie1228]

When we visited for our Lifestyle Preview, we were assigned a very professional and knowledeable real estate rep to help us find our way around TV. We really liked the guy, and found him to be a great asset to our trip. I just sent him an email asking him about the differences in square footage, and when I get an response, I'll let you know what he has to say.

[Russ_Boston]

I think we understand the differences as we discussed in previous posts. I guess the real question is why wouldn't they list, in the model description, all the sq. ft. totals (under A/C, with garage&lanai, outside dimensions)? This is enough info for an informed decision. Also why did they decide to change what was listed?

Of course not of that really matters when you view in person. It either works for you or it doesn't.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Yoda

Gee, what possible motivation could there be to change the measurement?

Hmm, do you think?

Banish the thought Yoda.

[JTW]

With all this discussion on lanai and front porch measurements, I got a little confused...my amarillo is listed as 1392 sq. ft ..does that include the lanai and front porch or not?

[Russ_Boston]

No - that is under 'air' living space.

[collie1228]

I got an email from my assigned TV realtor, who says that the larger numbers are "total square footage" and the smaller numbers would be "living space". He confirmed that the lower square footage numbers I quoted were correct living space for those models.

[rshoffer]

Originally Posted by Yoda

Gee, what possible motivation could there be to change the measurement?

Hmm, do you think?

noooooo, it can't be...

[Boomer]

This morning while doing about three other things, I wrote a response here about patio villas. Well, actually it was about patio villas on steroids.

(We have looked at a patio villa as a possible second home. We are not selling Boomer Base up north so taking on a second home takes more time to figure out, especially considering what's happening now in the economy. So we will be doing some more renting as soon as we can get back to it. We need to know for sure.)

So anyway, I got it all written, and had added numbers and research and all manner of stuff to try to gain credibility, and then I hit send. And found that I had timed out. (I never compose in Word. You would think I would learn.)

Well, now we all know that the opening page on The Villages web site shows the big number. And the page that shows the details of the home shows the square footage shrinking back to normal and that (Living) is after the number.

So gimme a break. What's that about? Who is writing that advertising? What are they thinking? I guess I could get real snippy and say, "Oh my! Sounds a little like it is bordering on bait and switchy to me." But I won't say that. Somebody might throw something at me. And it is not exactly bait and switch. Not exactly. But it is a come-on that makes me feel a little bit like I am being talked down to. Underestimated. Oh I don't know....it just makes me a little grouchy.

And besides all that, don't they know that at this point, most of us want smaller homes. Or is that opening page number supposed to imprint a lower price per square foot in our brains or something.

Who knows? Whose idea was it it anyway? Whoever it was does not know the market very well. Never insult the market. The market that tends to do the math. The market where some actually even know how to do math in their heads.

And now I will shut up my somewhat snippy self and flounce off for a little while to get over being insulted by this advertising tactic. -- I have only recently recovered from my fear that everyone who lives in TV looks just like those skinny, beautiful people in the ads, the people who all appear to be excellent golfers. But I can forgive them that advertising. It's expected you know. But this one bothers me a little. I wonder how old the person who wrote that ad is. Somebody needs to rethink it.

Boomer

[rshoffer]

Originally Posted by Boomer

This morning while doing about three other things, I wrote a response here about patio villas. Well, actually it was about patio villas on steroids.

(We have looked at a patio villa as a possible second home. We are not selling Boomer Base up north so taking on a second home takes more time to figure out, especially considering what's happening now in the economy. So we will be doing some more renting as soon as we can get back to it. We need to know for sure.)

So anyway, I got it all written, and had added numbers and research and all manner of stuff to try to gain credibility, and then I hit send. And found that I had timed out. (I never compose in Word. You would think I would learn.)

Well, now we all know that the opening page on The Villages web site shows the big number. And the page that shows the details of the home shows the square footage shrinking back to normal and that (Living) is after the number.

So gimme a break. What's that about? Who is writing that advertising? What are they thinking? I guess I could get real snippy and say, "Oh my! Sounds a little like it is bordering on bait and switchy to me." But I won't say that. Somebody might throw something at me. And it is not exactly bait and switch. Not exactly. But it is a come-on that makes me feel a little bit like I am being talked down to. Underestimated. Oh I don't know....it just makes me a little grouchy.

And besides all that, don't they know that at this point, most of us want smaller homes. Or is that opening page number supposed to imprint a lower price per square foot in our brains or something.

Who knows? Whose idea was it it anyway? Whoever it was does not know the market very well. Never insult the market. The market that tends to do the math. The market where some actually even know how to do math in their heads.

And now I will shut up my somewhat snippy self and flounce off for a little while to get over being insulted by this advertising tactic. -- I have only recently recovered from my fear that everyone who lives in TV looks just like those skinny, beautiful people in the ads, the people who all appear to be excellent golfers. But I can forgive them that advertising. It's expected you know. But this one bothers me a little. I wonder how old the person who wrote that ad is. Somebody needs to rethink it.

Boomer

no sense shutting up when you are absolutely correct...

[collie1228]

Boomer, I think "gimmie a break" just about covers it. I think you may have hit the nail on the head - it's probably someone in the marketing department getting "creative" with his head up somewhere human beings can't generally put their heads.

[katezbox]

Originally Posted by Boomer

This morning while doing about three other things, I wrote a response here about patio villas. Well, actually it was about patio villas on steroids.

(We have looked at a patio villa as a possible second home. We are not selling Boomer Base up north so taking on a second home takes more time to figure out, especially considering what's happening now in the economy. So we will be doing some more renting as soon as we can get back to it. We need to know for sure.)

So anyway, I got it all written, and had added numbers and research and all manner of stuff to try to gain credibility, and then I hit send. And found that I had timed out. (I never compose in Word. You would think I would learn.)

Well, now we all know that the opening page on The Villages web site shows the big number. And the page that shows the details of the home shows the square footage shrinking back to normal and that (Living) is after the number.

So gimme a break. What's that about? Who is writing that advertising? What are they thinking? I guess I could get real snippy and say, "Oh my! Sounds a little like it is bordering on bait and switchy to me." But I won't say that. Somebody might throw something at me. And it is not exactly bait and switch. Not exactly. But it is a come-on that makes me feel a little bit like I am being talked down to. Underestimated. Oh I don't know....it just makes me a little grouchy.

And besides all that, don't they know that at this point, most of us want smaller homes. Or is that opening page number supposed to imprint a lower price per square foot in our brains or something.

Who knows? Whose idea was it it anyway? Whoever it was does not know the market very well. Never insult the market. The market that tends to do the math. The market where some actually even know how to do math in their heads.

And now I will shut up my somewhat snippy self and flounce off for a little while to get over being insulted by this advertising tactic. -- I have only recently recovered from my fear that everyone who lives in TV looks just like those skinny, beautiful people in the ads, the people who all appear to be excellent golfers. But I can forgive them that advertising. It's expected you know. But this one bothers me a little. I wonder how old the person who wrote that ad is. Somebody needs to rethink it.

Boomer

Hi Boomer,

Someone does need to rethink it - because anything that turns off a potential buyer that really loves TV is not good business. None of us like to feel we are being taken...

Kate

who is building what is now a 2,759SF Bridgeport that was only 2,595 when we bought it!

[jinker]

Whether you are talking about under-roof, living space, or air-conditioned, what is the difference between the gardenia and begonia models? They look almost identical to me. Am I missing something, since both could include the golf garage.

[graciegirl]

I can't figure it out either. I have been in one and the Begonia seems smaller than a Camellia/Gardenia.