[Normal]

Originally Posted by SaucyJim

That’s not they said. The current rules were acknowledged and they adhere to them. It the proposed changes to the rules previously agreed to that is the restricting of rights.

Read it again. Your reply is to something that does not exist in the post.

Like the new Fire Assessment tax?
Like the increase in maintenance assessments?
Like allowing short term rental businesses to operate and not enforcing rules?
Or like changes in government and rules?

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Normal

Like the new Fire Assessment tax?
Like the increase in maintenance assessments?
Like allowing short term rental businesses to operate and not enforcing rules?
Or like changes in government and rules?

I have no clue what point you are trying to make. The first three have nothing to do with property rights. The fourth does and is exactly the point SaucyJim was making.

Just out of curiosity, what rules are not being enforced on rental properties and where can I read them?

[Normal]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

I have no clue what point you are trying to make. The first three have nothing to do with property rights. The fourth does and is exactly the point SaucyJim was making.

Just out of curiosity, what rules are not being enforced on rental properties and where can I read them?

Children residing in a home under 19 years of age
Running a business out of a home (note a business has money exchange hands from customers to a proprietor).
You just have to look at your deed restrictions

You can read them here Community Standards - The Villages Community Development Districts

Specifically 2.10

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by Normal

Running a business out of a home (note a business has money exchange hands from customers to a proprietor).
You just have to look at your deed restrictions

You can read them here Community Standards - The Villages Community Development Districts

Specifically 2.10

If you're suggesting that an STR is "running a business out of a home", you would be wrong. Courts all over the country have said that the "business" is not being conducted "in the home". The business is being conducted over the phone, via email or at the owner's permanent/other home.

The only time the "conducting business in the home" part would apply, is if the Owner/Lessor was in the home and accepting money for lodging ... renting out a room, for example.

[Normal]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

If you're suggesting that an STR is "running a business out of a home", you would be wrong. Courts all over the country have said that the "business" is not being conducted "in the home". The business is being conducted over the phone, via email or at the owner's permanent/other home.

The only time the "conducting business in the home" part would apply, is if the Owner/Lessor was in the home and accepting money for lodging ... renting out a room, for example.

Yes, an Airbnb can be considered a business. It involves renting out property or space to guests, generating income through short-term stays. Here are some key points to consider:

Types of Airbnb Businesses

Host Model: Individuals rent out their own homes or spare rooms.
Property Management: Companies manage multiple properties for owners, handling bookings and maintenance.
Revenue Generation
Hosts earn money through nightly rates, cleaning fees, and additional services.
Airbnb takes a percentage of each booking as a service fee.

Legal and Tax Considerations
Hosts may need to comply with local regulations and obtain permits.
Income generated is typically subject to taxation, requiring proper record-keeping.

You see; items that a judge would consider making it a business are: generation of income, repetitive renting, booking, repetitive maintenance, nightly fees, bookings, service fees and TAXES just to name a few.

Please stay focused on the original idea of guest passes. Why let owners of these business free load off the rest of us? Just change the guest pass system. Landlords are already running through many loopholes that need cleaned up. It’s time to evolve.

[Guinness835]

Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe

Gotta agree with this. Short term renters (under 30 days) are not doing a "dry-run" on what it is like to live here or to explore various Villages for their final purchase decision. Short term renters are here to have fun, use amenities, and party while their kids are occupied with amenities.

Serious home shoppers coming for a short time either do a 4 or 7 day lifestyle visit (or two) or they rent a hotel room for a few days. While their may be some who do short term rental who are responsible home shoppers, they have options (hotel) if short term rentals area restricted in The Villages.

My wife and I, as well as another couple came down twice for a week for 2 years and rented a home on Rent from a Villager. We did not want to do the lifestyle visits because we did not want to be in the areas those houses are. Both my wife and I and our friends bought homes here this year, so I don’t think it’s fair to say nobody rents to do a “dry run” because we did!

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by Normal

Yes, an Airbnb can be considered a business. It involves renting out property or space to guests, generating income through short-term stays. Here are some key points to consider:

Types of Airbnb Businesses

Host Model: Individuals rent out their own homes or spare rooms.
Property Management: Companies manage multiple properties for owners, handling bookings and maintenance.
Revenue Generation
Hosts earn money through nightly rates, cleaning fees, and additional services.
Airbnb takes a percentage of each booking as a service fee.

Legal and Tax Considerations
Hosts may need to comply with local regulations and obtain permits.
Income generated is typically subject to taxation, requiring proper record-keeping.

You see; items that a judge would consider making it a business are: generation of income, repetitive renting, booking, repetitive maintenance, nightly fees, bookings, service fees and TAXES just to name a few.

Please stay focused on the original idea of guest passes. Why let owners of these business free load off the rest of us? Just change the guest pass system. Landlords are already running through many loopholes that need cleaned up. It’s time to evolve.

Unlike your use of AI to generate an unattributed quote, I do this stuff for a living. Do your own research. AI is incorrect in this instance. Read the court cases. Almost every court in the USA, agrees.

As a matter of fact, the District has already been quoted as saying exactly what I posted. It is not a business to rent out a home as an STR as the "business" is not being conducted in the home and the home continues to be used for residential purposes.

The "host" is earning money from the comfort of their own home, not the one they're renting out. Different story, if someone is living in a home and renting out a room.

Facts matter.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Normal

…
Please stay focused on the original idea of guest passes. Why let owners of these business free load off the rest of us? Just change the guest pass system. Landlords are already running through many loopholes that need cleaned up. It’s time to evolve.

In what way are those who rent their homes freeloading off anyone? Do they not pay the same fee for amenities that I pay? Is there a special landlord pass that they get but I don’t? If they pay for use of amenities and I pay for use of the amenities and we both can use the amenities 365 days per year then where is the freeloading?

What are the many guest pass loopholes that landlords are running through?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Normal

Yes, an Airbnb can be considered a business. It involves renting out property or space to guests, generating income through short-term stays. Here are some key points to consider:

Types of Airbnb Businesses

Host Model: Individuals rent out their own homes or spare rooms.
Property Management: Companies manage multiple properties for owners, handling bookings and maintenance.
Revenue Generation
Hosts earn money through nightly rates, cleaning fees, and additional services.
Airbnb takes a percentage of each booking as a service fee.

Legal and Tax Considerations
Hosts may need to comply with local regulations and obtain permits.
Income generated is typically subject to taxation, requiring proper record-keeping.

You see; items that a judge would consider making it a business are: generation of income, repetitive renting, booking, repetitive maintenance, nightly fees, bookings, service fees and TAXES just to name a few.

Please stay focused on the original idea of guest passes. Why let owners of these business free load off the rest of us? Just change the guest pass system. Landlords are already running through many loopholes that need cleaned up. It’s time to evolve.

But if the business owner isn't conducting the business end of the business from the property in question, then the business owner is not running a business out of their home. If the landlord doesn't live in the house, and his home is somewhere else, then he's not operating the business out of his home.

[Normal]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

But if the business owner isn't conducting the business end of the business from the property in question, then the business owner is not running a business out of their home. If the landlord doesn't live in the house, and his home is somewhere else, then he's not operating the business out of his home.

Airbnb calls it a “business,” and that’s their term.

How to Start an Airbnb Business: A Step-by-Step Guide

Don’t forget, there may be a contract, financial transactions occur, taxes are paid on the income. A DBPR is required in our state. So yes, it is a business. General DBPR information:

But again, the thread is about making a renters pass instead of calling each and every person a guest and allowing the guest pass system to be abused.