[Bogie Shooter]

Bill it must be that time year..................again.

[mherzberg]

That it is!

[ilovetv]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

I think that problems occur when cars enter the round-a-bout at 6:00 go into the left lane, and intend to go straight through and exit at 12:00. A car enters the round-a-bot at 3:00 at approximately the same time stays in the right lane and intends to go straight through and exit at 9:00. The car in the right hand lane will be cutting across the bow of the car in the left hand lane. You have to watch out for this. Both drivers are following the rules, but there could be an issue if the car in the left hand lane isn't paying attention.

This little diagram is nice, but it doesn't address cars entering at close to the same time from different points. It only shows two cars entering from 6:00.

I've had the o.p.'s scenario happen several times while going north on Buena Vista, in the area of Rainey Trail and Belvedere circles and it is dangerous. What differs from Dr. Winston O Boogie's scenario quoted is this:

While I entered at 6:00 into the inner (left) lane intending to go straight and exit at 12:00, another car entered at 6:00 (not 3:00) and slightly behind me, then sped around in the right lane... and as I was exiting at 12:00, they got slightly ahead of me and cut across to the left to exit at 9:00, nearly swiping my front passenger side bumper or t-boning my passenger side. Fortunately I was on the lookout and held back as they zoomed to the left in front of me.

That is what the o.p. is talking about: turning left from the right lane....translating to: they should not have entered the circle in the right lane at 6:00 with intentions of exiting the circle on the left at 9:00. (Should have entered in the left lane at 6:00.

Mike in Post #6 understood it that way, too, I'm pretty sure.

[kaydee]

entering & exiting ALWAYS stagger & please ALWAYS use BLINKERS

[mixsonci]

Originally Posted by travelguy

unless you have driven in new jersey you have no idea how to navigate a roundabout, or what we refer to as traffic circles. believe me, driving there is an education. do not slow down, change lanes as often as you can, and get out of there......all without using a turn signal even once.

I am from the Boston area and we are probably the only ones in the US who refer to roundabouts as Rotaries. However, Massachusetts has slowly been doing away with all roundabouts. There are of course some still around but they have been changing them and putting traffic lights in. Much better.

[mickey100]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

I think that problems occur when cars enter the round-a-bout at 6:00 go into the left lane, and intend to go straight through and exit at 12:00. A car enters the round-a-bot at 3:00 at approximately the same time stays in the right lane and intends to go straight through and exit at 9:00. The car in the right hand lane will be cutting across the bow of the car in the left hand lane. You have to watch out for this. Both drivers are following the rules, but there could be an issue if the car in the left hand lane isn't paying attention.

This little diagram is nice, but it doesn't address cars entering at close to the same time from different points. It only shows two cars entering from 6:00.

The problem is, the car already in the roundabout has the right of way. The car entering the roundabout from 3:00 technically is supposed to wait until the cars already in the roundabout have gone by. If they followed this rule, then they would be able to go straight as you describe, with no conflict. If they actually did enter at exactly the same time, the car at 3:00 would be ahead of the car entering at 6:00 and there would be no problem.

Indymaker, that was a great diagram by the way.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Indydealmaker

I think that it might be less confusing for the newbies on the roundabouts to quit thinking in terms of right turn and left turns. Just learn which lane you are supposed to be in to go the direction you choose. Logically, all turns from the circle are "right" turns. The exits are one through four. Regardless of which direction you enter from, your first exit is YOUR number one, the two, etc. The signs posted at the approach to each roundabout are very clear.

Also, no lane changes should occur once you are in the roundabout. You are either inside our outside.

Never enter a roundabout beside another car. Stagger your entry so that you are not T-boned. Also the speed limit of 20 is absolutely necessary. It is not an arbitrary speed.

Copy this and study it. I didn't walk on you intentionally Mickey...This is important for all new people to SEE.

[stroglass]

I live in jersey and travel state route 34 there are round about on this road and I have to tell you most drivers here also do not know how to dive in a roundabout .I think they should be removed but oh well coming to the villages I guess I have to live with them

[red tail]

they sure beat 4 way stop intersections!!

[Regor]

It would be so simple if everyone in the right lane, HAS to exit at the first exit!

[mickey100]

The great thing about roundabouts is that they keep traffic moving. If there were four way stops at all the intersections, traffic would be so bogged down it would be unbelievable. The roadway system in The Villages would just not be able to handle the volume of cars in the high season. The bad thing about roundabouts is that if one person disobeys the rules, it mucks it up for the other drivers in the roundabouts.

[Biker Dog]

Turn signals people....always use your turn signals...PLEASE!!!!!!

[Bogie Shooter]

For those who enjoy reading about how to drive roundabouts, there are over 100 posts. If this doesn't give you the answer...do a search on "roundabouts". Or continue reading the posts on this thread; which eventually will be duplication of the posts on these earlier threads.
There just so many different ways to say the same thing.


Tips for driving in The Villages

We don't need no stinkin roundabouts!

Roundabouts vs Stop Signs

[kathyzapp]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

I've had the o.p.'s scenario happen several times while going north on Buena Vista, in the area of Rainey Trail and Belvedere circles and it is dangerous. What differs from Dr. Winston O Boogie's scenario quoted is this:

While I entered at 6:00 into the inner (left) lane intending to go straight and exit at 12:00, another car entered at 6:00 (not 3:00) and slightly behind me, then sped around in the right lane... and as I was exiting at 12:00, they got slightly ahead of me and cut across to the left to exit at 9:00, nearly swiping my front passenger side bumper or t-boning my passenger side. Fortunately I was on the lookout and held back as they zoomed to the left in front of me.

That is what the o.p. is talking about: turning left from the right lane....translating to: they should not have entered the circle in the right lane at 6:00 with intentions of exiting the circle on the left at 9:00. (Should have entered in the left lane at 6:00.

Mike in Post #6 understood it that way, too, I'm pretty sure.

Exactly! You said it so much better than I did.

[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

slow down let the right lane driver enter the roundabout first and leave that driver ahead of you. Then if they do something stupid you will not get whacked.

Agree. Even though they are wrong, they don't know it, so why be bothered with an accident.