[Lottoguy]

Imagine people saying no to the Polio vaccine went it came out. Now when you look back you can see how stupid people are. Or throwing insults at Dr. Jonas Salk. Let's face it people are crazy with what they believe in. I put them in with the "flat Earthers".

[Wyseguy]

Originally Posted by sail33or

It is AMAZING to me that you people actually get in a moving vehicle because I can absolutely prove to you a person died yesterday "IN A MOVING VEHICLE". (Yes, DIED.)

Well it was the sudden stop that actually got them.

They must not care about people.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by Wyseguy

The hysteria many on this very board practice are hurting the very people you want to protect. Because of chemo drugs, bone marrow shots and whatever else they have given me, to keep me alive (I thank God for that) has resulted in my medical team advising I do not get the vaccine at this time. I have been yelled at, cursed, one person even spit at me for not being vaccinated and not wearing a mask. I have no desire to enter into discussions about my health a dozen times daily whenever I go out. Anyone who ever had the treatments knows that for a few days after the bone marrow stimulation drug every step hurts and your skull feels like it is going to explode. The LAST thing I want is some self important "Im Vaxxed, I care" person come up and giving me crap. Take care of yourself as best you can. Have compassion for everyone you come across. Don't assume you know what they are up to or dealing with. I have my reasons, young females may be concerned with child birth (My generation may remember the totally safe injection cure for morning sickness) and potential effects of the shot. It is easy to get wrapped in ourselves. Many on here are older (and distinguished I am sure), not having to worry about things younger, or sicker individuals do. I am so troubled by the hostility and division vaccinated and non vaccinated individuals are demonstrating, all pushed forward by the press and government. Keep us at each others throats and we will not realize who the real enemy is.

Unfortunately it is working!!

[Spalumbos62]

Originally Posted by camaguey48

Right on the money. Blame everybody but the ones responsible for letting illegals into this country and not checking for the CCP virus.
Great job, Mr. *

Oh please, it's not the illegals fault, it's ALL the nonvaxers. Stop blaming the illegals, do they come across the boarder not vacinated, yes...but their percentage compared to the moranic nonvaxers is minimal.
I believe if you adamantly refuse the vaccine and you end up sick, then insurance should refuse to cover.(please let's not compare to smokers and obese, that's another issue by itself) this is a pandemic people-act responsible.

[Spalumbos62]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

People should try a few of the English-language newspaper websites of some of the European capitals and other major cities. They all have them. The Sydney Morning Herald provides some interesting ongoing coverage as well. Most of them, including al-Jazeera, provide information and in-depth coverage on the anti-mask and -vaccine rallies, and the reasons behind them, that we just don't get over here. In particular, a line from today's edition of the Sydney Morning Herald about the reasons for the demonstrations, at least in the some-dozen places in Australia where they are taking place, sums it up briefly and succinctly: "Let us think for ourselves".

Impugning the messenger because one doesn't like the message does not add anything of substance to the discussion.

"Impugning the messenger "......ya know what, sometimes people go a little too far to prove their point. Things don't need to be repeated to stroke their own ego. When others are rightfully sensitive and hurt by a post and ask another not to continue, one would think that person would show some respect. Not doing so just shows how self centered and selfish they are. I can't imagine anyone not seeing that in this post, not respecting it, not understanding it- unless they just crawled out from under a stone.
Shame,Shame,, shame to that inhumane person.

[Wyseguy]

Originally Posted by KRMACK55

Hate mongering no one is more corrosive than the NBC ANC CBS MSNBC CNN - rely on federal agencies I’ll rely on science not fear and lies.

More than 170,000 migrants crossed the border in March — many coming from countries still grappling with high infection rates — but the Border Patrol is conducting no testing for the coronavirus during the several days that the newly arrived migrants are in U.S. custody except in cases where migrants show obvious symptoms.

Above is from the New York Times. Where did the poster claiming only 6% test positive get their info from????

[tuccillo]

Let me make sure I understand this. You are suggesting that health insurance companies should begin to ignore their own Terms and Conditions regarding coverage? Since Medicare is essentially a health insurance entity, I can only assume you are also suggesting that the Federal Government should also start to deny valid claims?

Originally Posted by Spalumbos62

Oh please, it's not the illegals fault, it's ALL the nonvaxers. Stop blaming the illegals, do they come across the boarder not vacinated, yes...but their percentage compared to the moranic nonvaxers is minimal.
I believe if you adamantly refuse the vaccine and you end up sick, then insurance should refuse to cover.(please let's not compare to smokers and obese, that's another issue by itself) this is a pandemic people-act responsible.

[Spalumbos62]

Originally Posted by PugMom

Friend; i am unvaxxed, i was also negative for the virus. it appears some of us will not be affected by covid- i'm not even a carrier! before we go around lynching people for their decisions, let's look @ all sides.

Lol lol...you are negative now you say (with a 3day old test) and you could be sick by tomorrow and dead from it by Sunday. Most smart people want to live.

[Bob.Betty]

Blame me all you want, I choose to not get the vaccine and that will not change

[Lil GTO]

No mask here! Never again period!

Originally Posted by DeanFL

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I fully expect us, here in The Villages and much of the U.S. to go back to "masking up" indoors yet again. The new variant is surging rapidly according to the data, esp here in Florida. Here we go again.

1. We are fully Moderna vaccinated and would absolutely get a booster when available.
2. The only times we HAD to 'mask up' indoors in the last few months was a) in the doctor's office b) on the airplanes.
3. I am still furious that China got away with starting this whole matter. I'll leave it as that.

Are YOU ready to go back to the future with Covid??? grrrr.
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[Wyseguy]

If there is a national emergency, a pandemic, shut the Southern Border. As reported in the NYT, illegal aliens are NOT being tested. Covid is spreading throughout the camps. These infected individuals are then sent throughout the US and dropped off in cities and towns.

[PugMom]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Actually, I have the credentials and experience to do just that, and I know doctors there unless they are also retired. Do you?????

But to answer the question, one word. Politics.

i was about to say you probably already did use your credentials to obtain info,, & yes, it's all politics. if my actual Dr. came to me & said i NEED this shot, i'd consider it more seriously than if some senator, etc. told me to. so far only ONE Dr. said i SHOULD think about it. there's a huge disconnect going on in some places, but i still think it should be a matter of choice. if i get sick & die i have no one to blame but myself. if i live, then we study the people who CAN overcome it. debate welcome.

[Spalumbos62]

Originally Posted by ROCKMUP

This whole thing is a giant psychological manipulation of the masses. Its been done to others throughout history, this is simply a modern example and done on a scale never seen before thanks to social media and the evening news.
Turning neighbor against neighbor, family against family, tell me you don't recognize it. Animal Farm and 1984 are here.

You only need to decide if you're going to get on the train or not because its going to get much worse before it gets better

Exactly....nonvaxers think they will be accepted, that they can say..."it's my right" and vaxers are going to let them slide. I think people ,especially with kids, are going to stop this madness and it's going to get very ugly toward the nonvaxers...very ugly.

[chet2020]

It's ironic that the people most ticked off about the new mask restrictions are also the ones most responsible for the new mask restrictions.

[Buckeye Bob]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

I'm not sure that is going to happen.

This is far from a tempest in a teapot. It is a worldwide movement: Italy, France, Australia, the UK, and other countries have all seen huge rallies against mandatory vaccines and mandatory mask-wearing. We don't hear or read about those much in this country, but foreign sources cover them pretty well.

Is destroying businesses and economies a fair price to pay for further control of a disease that is overall something like 99% survivable? I think that is the question that people are asking themselves right now.

I don't see any mention of Ivermectin or Hydroxychloroquine. Why are the CDC, WHO, Bill Gates, etc. so against it when it's so very effective. Because it's cheap. Follow the money sheeple.