[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

And yet don't even think of putting a 6 inch garden gnome in your front yard..... Overall, I'm willing to bet that most of would rather live next to a garden gnome than a revolving door motel with and endless variety of "occupants".

Well, the "Clip Board Commandos" don't have a lot of STRs in their neighborhoods, so they have to find something "something" to complain about...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

And most of the time they probably aren't-------until-----you get one next door to you. Here's a repost from another thread by someone who has 10 such STRs in their immediate neighborhood:

You stated you do not have strs in your neighborhood. Let me share my experience.
1. You wake up and trash has been put out when it is not collection day. Animals ripped open the bags and trash has littered your yard. Cars are blocking your driveway because the renters have guests. The renters dog is barking and woke you up early. There are arguments, whistling, shouting, doors slamming, loud engines that wake you up from a peaceful sleep. The renters are on the lanai naked. Their children are running around. I can go on!

2. You go on with your day. Come home and your driveway is blocked (again) or someone has parked on your lawn. Or, a renter knocks on your door asking you to resolve an issue they are having at the rented house. Or, they want to borrow a bike, or some golf clubs, or a pot or pan, or whatever! Or, their dog is barking loud. Or they need some information, or they want directions, or recommendations. Or their children are recklessly playing on the street. Some even ask to watch/feed their pets while they go to Disney.

3. You have a nice dinner, take a stroll on the square, come home and the renters are having a party. Loud and noisy. Or, they are drinkers and are talking loud, and using foul language. Or, they are having a loud argument. Or, their children are screaming and crying. Or, they are with their spouse getting it on in a loud fashion. Or they have entered your lawn to take a p#ss. Or the TV or music is blaring. Or their dog is barking. Or some think it is funny to howl at a full moon. I can go on!

So. It is my job to pick up the renter's trash, knock on the door and tell them to move their cars hoping they do not get beligerent with me(which most do), give out my belongings, go over to the house to assist with a problem, act as a concierge, reprimand their children and babysit their pets. Then, before I go to sleep, go over to the renters and tell them to keep the noise level down or I will call the police. Only to be told F#### off!

How is any of this my responsibility? Oh! Call the owner? Because that is the neighborly thing to do? Good luck with that! He is too busy playing golf and I am probably just overreacting. The action he takes? "Don't worry, they are only here for a few days. They will be gone before you know it, but thanks for letting me know." And, getting him to come over at night and quiet the neighbors or call the police? His answer. "I really don't find that necessary." He gets a good night sleep and I don't.

Enter a new renter- same results.

I have every right to demand the owner of his rental monitor his home. And, yes! 3 times a day! In the morning to pick up their trash, in the afternoon to make certain cars are not blocking driveways or to check if the renters need something, or if pets/children are out of hand. Then, once again, at night to check if there is loud noise and police may need to be called. If the renters were at a hotel, the hotel has staff and security to do this. If they are at an apartment building, staff and security is there, as well. Why shouldn't the owner of an STR have that responsibility?

Long term renters can be as bad. People who rent in the Villages are here to have a good time.They are not here to follow the rules of the community. Most do not even know the rules. You nicely tell them, and they respond with a F### Off!

There is a reason new laws have been enacted in NYC that address THESE SAME issues I am having. It is reasonable to believe people on vacation act the same way throughout the USA. Hopefully, the same laws will be enacted here in the Villages. Especially, the rule that states the owner must be present in the rental.

Note: If you do not have any renters where you live, please do not post in support of the STR owner. You have no idea what living next to a rental property is like. Reasonable people would not call others unreasonable if they have never experienced something. Thank you!

Also, do not come on this thread claiming to know a lot about this issue. Then go on to talk about Clearwater being grandfathered in, government zoning and land restrictions, mineral rights, Euclid vrs Ambler, laws dating back to 2003, Govenor Scott, etc.etc. You may have knowledge but what the heck does any of it have to do with STRS in the Villages? Last I looked, Desantis is our govenor, rules have changed, no one in the Villages sells their mineral rights, govt zoning and deed restrictions are two different things, could care less about Euclid vrs Ambler, and this is 2023 not 2003! If you want to talk about your knowledge on zoning and land restrictions then start a thread on that subject.

I would wager that the person who posted that would ask "Things than never happened for $600, Alex" on Jeopardy

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

I believe that ordinance has to do with music heard from cars.

25' is about half the distance across the inside of my home. My wife and I can talk at a normal volume from that distance and hear each other just fine. We all would be in violation just for talking if that was the actual ordinance.

You mean I can have my wife cited if she complains to me in my own home? Sweet!

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by oldtimes

All this person does is critique other people's posts, that is why I have them blocked.

Then how did you read their post?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by llaran

I know at least one home purchased by the Villages for rental in a single-family home area. there was a time when it was clustered not anymore.

Also, when you purchase a home, you can do what you want with it.
Many people buy before retirement and rent it out until they are ready to move.

TV actually purchased a home to rent out?

I find that hard to believe...

The more likely scenario is that home was never sold and is still part of what they hold back to use for their Lifestyle Visits...

[Cybersprings]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Then how did you read their post?

Since I am the person blocked, I was going to ask the same question, then I realized that the post to which he repsonded had the quote of my post embedded. Blocking someone apparently does not block the quoting of them....I think.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Randall55

/// Ten rentals on her street. If 2 people stay in each home, 20 transient people. Do you believe at least one or two is capable of doing the things she stated? What if there are 20 different transients the next week, then the next? You don't see that there could be problems?

I am guessing that each villa has 3 bedrooms. What if there are 4 people staying in the rental or 6? This would result in blocked driveways and streets as she stated. And, lots of trash left out when it is not collection day.

You're assuming that all 10 rentals are STRs.

Our dog watcher is on her 3rd home since we found her. She and her husband rent for a year (longer if possible), and then are typically told that their lease is not being renewed because the owners are now moving in...

Why they don't simply buy? I don't know. Maybe their pension affords them the ability to rent but not to buy? But that's none of my business. They are great people who would make great neighbors...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Cybersprings

Since I am the person blocked, I was going to ask the same question, then I realized that the post to which he repsonded had the quote of my post embedded. Blocking someone apparently does not block the quoting of them....I think.

Yet they responded to GE... Go figure...

Funny, I still respond to the posts of people I know have blocked me. Not because I think they'll see the response, but to correct the nonsense they post...

[Cybersprings]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Psychic as well????

Look, I get it, and nobody's perfect. The problem is that you kind of set yourself up as the self appointed guardian of ensuring factual posts. That's a tough role to fulfill and when you screw up everyone is going to point it out, especially on TOTV--America's friendliest social medium

Best not to be so literal and give a little latitude.
Look, I do the same thing when somebody posts some medical nonsense---and I justify it by knowing I'm preventing the dissemination of erroneous information. At least I get the benefit of a good laugh when someone wants to argue the point because they "googled it"

I don't think I set myself up by attempting to be the guardian of ensuring factual posts. I intentionally set myself up by asking on multiple threads to point out where I am wrong, just don't make up stuff I said and point that out as wrong. I welcome being corrected. Making mistakes does not make you a bad person or reduce your worth. I have Nno issue with you or anyone else pointing it out. I admitted it, apologized for it and then got it wrong again. I then admitted I got it wrong again and apologized.
Can you say the same? When it is pointed out to you, you ignore it and find a separate point to make. I think that is telling.
If someone googles it, and they quote Doctors, peer-reviewed studies, etc. Is your opinion always more correct? If so, what is your source of information that no one else in the world has? (I know, your experience is something that no one else has. they may have more of their own experience, but no one has yours. IF that is what you point to, please explain why your experience is better than everyone else's.) And if someone said they googled something, and it was something you published as that MAY happen, would it still be non-sense?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Cybersprings

I get it. Many are tired of reading my posts and don't like me (virtually). But I hope that there are good people out there who can see the differences in peoples' post. But, as I said in another post elsewhere, unmet expectations do not lead to positive emotions (so you need to manage your expectations and hopes).

Don't sell yourself short... The probably don't like you in real life, either...


P.S. I KEEED, I KEEED! Most would most likely enjoy a beer and conversation with you... I know I would...

[oldtimes]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Then how did you read their post?

Have I responded to anything since then?

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Cybersprings

I don't think I set myself up by attempting to be the guardian of ensuring factual posts. I intentionally set myself up by asking on multiple threads to point out where I am wrong, just don't make up stuff I said and point that out as wrong. I welcome being corrected. Making mistakes does not make you a bad person or reduce your worth. I have Nno issue with you or anyone else pointing it out. I admitted it, apologized for it and then got it wrong again. I then admitted I got it wrong again and apologized.
Can you say the same? When it is pointed out to you, you ignore it and find a separate point to make. I think that is telling.
If someone googles it, and they quote Doctors, peer-reviewed studies, etc. Is your opinion always more correct? If so, what is your source of information that no one else in the world has? (I know, your experience is something that no one else has. they may have more of their own experience, but no one has yours. IF that is what you point to, please explain why your experience is better than everyone else's.) And if someone said they googled something, and it was something you published as that MAY happen, would it still be non-sense?

You still don't get it. You are under the same delusion as many----that somehow "googling" something is the equivalent of 11 years of medical education and 40 years of experience. Heck, why bother having doctors at all---everyone can just "google" their problem.

Let's try this another way: I want to know about string theory so I google it. I could read several theoretical physics journals on the subject, but I probably wouldn't understand a word they were writing. So I have to go to a site or a journal that "dumbs it down" for me, but of course a lot gets lost in the translation. So now I know they postulate 27 spatial and 2 temporal dimensions on a "string" the length of Planck's constant. So now I have an understanding equal to Stephen Hawkins? And worse, I think I can get in a debate with Hawkins with my new found "knowledge"

Why is my "opinion" more correct----first of all, it is not "an opinion" it is a factual knowledge base and an understanding of how things work---and you don't understand those things from a google search. And my experience is not better than "everyone" else's, there are physicians who know more than I do. But there are few if any amateurs that qualify.

You seem fairly intelligent, so why are you being so obtuse when you have to know I'm right?

[Normal]

Maybe there IS a solution to the AirBnB problem most have overlooked? The Villages did build a neighborhood after 2011 and 2014 that didn’t permit rentals, all are prohibited!

There is a way to stop the madness, or are their rules illegal?

[Cybersprings]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Don't sell yourself short... The probably don't like you in real life, either...


P.S. I KEEED, I KEEED! Most would most likely enjoy a beer and conversation with you... I know I would...

I do appreciate a good jab. And I too would enjoy a beer With you

Originally Posted by Bill14564

That is not how the restrictions read. Words matter.

Yes, words matter and FL law requires business lic for some STRs. The words are right. Villa deed restrictions prohibit businesses being run out of them. Perhaps researching those words in that order is necessary. Put the words in a bowl and eat them as a salad if they are more appealing as empty calories.