[asianthree]

Originally Posted by La lamy

I think a limit on guest passes per household is a great idea for mitigating short term rentals. My guess is 10 passes per year. No extras at any cost, or else it'd still be too easy to put that cost onto short term visitors.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

A solution to that would be to limit FREE passes to an arbitrary number of adults, and children under 19 who are accompanied by those adults, would always be free. So if you did the 10 passes per year...

Then up to 10 ADULTS would get passes for free. AND all kids under 19 would get passes for free. If an 11th adult wanted a pass, and brought 3 kids with them, then the adult would pay for an adult pass. And the kids would still get free passes.

I replied to the above post from LaLamy on 10 pass’s NO exception.

Our family of 16 is 25-55yo, zero under 19, ever.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by asianthree

I replied to the above post from LaLamy on 10 pass’s NO exception.

Our family of 16 is 25-55yo, zero under 19, ever.

So then you'd have to pay for six out of the 16 people who visit, if you want them to have a guest pass. I don't see the problem.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

$10/week and $25/month for temporary unlimited use of amenity passes (except regional and sports pools) seems reasonable to me. It's not a "big" surcharge. All the swimming, basketball, archery, bocci, billiards/pool, video games, and opportunity to get in on many rec center classes, for just $10/week? How is that a "big" surcharge?

If one doesn't have children, grandchildren, or family or friends I can see where this arrangement would be glorious for keeping only old people around them.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

So then you'd have to pay for six out of the 16 people who visit, if you want them to have a guest pass. I don't see the problem.

That’s part of the problem - those who would impose restrictions or fees would not be affected by those restrictions or fees and don’t see a problem. Others would be affected and for them it understandably is a problem.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

True, but the neighbors will know. Since anyone can anonymously report an 8-inch garden gnome, why not accept anonymous reports of someone running a STR business?

Nothing to report.

A STR is probably not considered to be “running a business out of the home” but clearly is not one of the two business types explicitly prohibited by the deer restrictions.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Aces4

Just remember you have set the table for higher fees for everything. It's the same as the way our government works, just increase funding little by little by little. To me, all this points out is the fact The Villages is not self sustaining and get ready to pay. IMHO, this is the tip of the iceberg.

The Amenity Divisions have been successfully running the amenities for how many decades now? There was a period of time with no amenity fee increases, the area north of 466 is pushing for another freeze now, and the area south of 466 is struggling to explain why they don’t want a freeze. To me, this shows the amenities are successfully self sustaining, are funded very well at the moment, and don’t need additional sources of revenue.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

The Amenity Divisions have been successfully running the amenities for how many decades now? There was a period of time with no amenity fee increases, the area north of 466 is pushing for another freeze now, and the area south of 466 is struggling to explain why they don’t want a freeze. To me, this shows the amenities are successfully self sustaining, are funded very well at the moment, and don’t need additional sources of revenue.

I hope that assessment is correct. I wonder if Sumter county will pick up on the fact that they can add additional fees for things and Villagers won't mind. Such as: golf cart fees, library charges every time you use it, parking meters, seems that if extra charges are okay with Villagers they won't mind kicking into the county coffers. All the surrounding coffers I should say..
Marion, Lake and Wildwood, there's a whole bunch of change out there ready to be collected.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by asianthree

Renters sure charge just like the $50 residents pass.

However, for us what children, or grandchildren do we forbid coming to see us at holidays, with 10 passes no exceptions.

3 kids, 3 spouses, 6 grands + 2 fiancé’s. It’s hard enough for some to get family to visit. Your idea to limit, would only cause hardship. Choose who is special and who is unloved.

3 kids come 3 times a year, twice with spouse’s, 6 grands once a year for parks, along with fiancé’s.(gone 4 days out of 7 day visits).
One child is nearing hospice, so visit is difficult yet important for all.

All come for two holidays per year. None go to any public pools because we have our own. All frequent restaurants, so great for economy.
2 kids and 1 grand + fianc, are avid golfers each belonging to private clubs. Each value playing time with their dad and grandpa.


So in your opinion who would you choose for only 10 passes. Some would say dump the 49yo stage 4 brain tumor, visits can be sad.

As an aside, I've wondered how your child was managing with the difficult diagnosis. I'm sorry to learn there was no success in treatment. Thinking of your family in these final days. Been there, done that with a family member, it's a rough road.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

That’s part of the problem - those who would impose restrictions or fees would not be affected by those restrictions or fees and don’t see a problem. Others would be affected and for them it understandably is a problem.

I’d be totally in favor of restrictions that hit my wallet, as long as they are severe enough to prevent short term rentals. I’m sure I’m not alone in that opinion.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Nothing to report.

A STR is probably not considered to be “running a business out of the home” but clearly is not one of the two business types explicitly prohibited by the deer restrictions.

Yet everyone knows IT IS a business being run out of a home. What else would one call it?????

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

I’d be totally in favor of restrictions that hit my wallet, as long as they are severe enough to prevent short term rentals. I’m sure I’m not alone in that opinion.

You most certainly are not!

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

You most certainly are not!

Yes, do get rid of those short-term rentals! And then watch the housing market in The Villages collapse.

[Normal]

Originally Posted by Aces4

Yes, do get rid of those short-term rentals! And then watch the housing market in The Villages collapse.

I wouldn’t throw the baby out with the bath water yet. Nothing has been done and the market is already collapsing. The market is virtually frozen in the resale market.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by Normal

I wouldn’t throw the baby out with the bath water yet. Nothing has been done and the market is already collapsing. The market is virtually frozen in the resale market.

That is what I'm talking about, I don't think Villagers have any idea how much their market is propped up by rental income for owners. Ban all rentals and see what happens.

[Topspinmo]

I knew a guy that owned house near me had over 10 family members with resident ID. Some say how that possible? I guess they was all on deed? IMO there multi-ways to game the system and some are doing it.