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Old 09-15-2020, 01:56 PM
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I don't want to be mean but if I owned the joint you wouldn't be telling me what to build there. Not a chance.
Approximately 100% of the naysayers would feel exactly the same if it were THEIR land. No one would be heard. Most just like to complain for something to do. Good news is there are really very few malcontents.

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This was the zoning planning board and they voted 3 to 0 to deny rezoning for multifamily apartments in TV at the Lake County locations requested by the developer.

My better half was there and says EVERY resident that spoke was firmly opposed. She was impressed by their knowledge and eloquence in expressing their feelings.

The zoning board only recommends to the Lake County commissioners so there is still work to be done. Contact the Lake County commissioners and let them know how you feel. You can "fight city hall" in large numbers. They are our elected representatives after all.
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There are several on this thread that say the developer can do whatever they like because it is their property. That is not true here or where you last lived.

They must comply with zoning restrictions. Just as you cannot use your home in a way that is incompatible with the area, the developer cannot use the areas they own in a way that is not compatible with the use it is zoned for.

If they could do "what they damn well want" they could put a pig slaughter house in Lake Sumter Landing town square. And at least one person here will say they own it and it will be beautiful.
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There are several on this thread that say the developer can do whatever they like because it is their property. That is not true here or where you last lived.

They must comply with zoning restrictions. Just as you cannot use your home in a way that is incompatible with the area, the developer cannot use the areas they own in a way that is not compatible with the use it is zoned for.

If they could do "what they damn well want" they could put a pig slaughter house in Lake Sumter Landing town square. And at least one person here will say they own it and it will be beautiful.
Well stated. ( and yes, it will be the most beautiful slaughterhouse ever. )
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Aren't we all told what we can do with our property, in one way or another? Homeowners must abide by their deed restrictions and the developer is constrained by local ordinances and zoning laws. The apartment complex at Hacienda might not even be approved.

Maybe 1% of residents go to a town square on any given night (before COVID). I see no reason to believe that people from The Lofts will buck that trend. Their concern is more likely to be how to keep from hearing the music every night!
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Old 09-15-2020, 03:02 PM
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I think the "naysayers" and "malcontents" have a legitimate gripe, and I don't agree with those who think resistance is futile. The developers still have a very large stake in continuing the growth and development of TV in the new southern areas, and there are a lot of people who love to watch what goes on here, and love to report negatively to whoever will listen. If the voices grow loud enough, and are heard and transmitted by media (social media and more mainstream media), it may make an impression on the developers, should they come to the opinion that the bad press may not be good for future sales.
That's the way things things usually work. If, indeed, they can do whatever they "damn well want", there may exist an avenue to change their minds about what it is they want.
If the wheel squeaks loudly enough, and is heard by enough potential future buyers, it may well get oiled.
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Aren't we all told what we can do with our property, in one way or another? Homeowners must abide by their deed restrictions and the developer is constrained by local ordinances and zoning laws. The apartment complex at Hacienda might not even be approved.

Maybe 1% of residents go to a town square on any given night (before COVID). I see no reason to believe that people from The Lofts will buck that trend. Their concern is more likely to be how to keep from hearing the music every night!
And they will be complaining about the noise. Just like the people who built houses near I 75.
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Well stated. ( and yes, it will be the most beautiful slaughterhouse ever. )
Now that is funny!

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Right. But they "own" the commisioners, in a certain way
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"there are a lot of people who love to watch what goes on here, and love to report negatively to whoever will listen".
More honest words have never been spoken, especially on this forum.
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This was the zoning planning board and they voted 3 to 0 to deny rezoning for multifamily apartments in TV at the Lake County locations requested by the developer.

My better half was there and says EVERY resident that spoke was firmly opposed. She was impressed by their knowledge and eloquence in expressing their feelings.

The zoning board only recommends to the Lake County commissioners so there is still work to be done. Contact the Lake County commissioners and let them know how you feel. You can "fight city hall" in large numbers. They are our elected representatives after all.
I think I will do that. I fully support rezoning for multifamily apartments. I think it will help increase traffic for square businesses and also give options to current villagers that don't want to maintain a house.
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I think I will do that. I fully support rezoning for multifamily apartments. I think it will help increase traffic for square businesses and also give options to current villagers that don't want to maintain a house.
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Brownwood.............less than 500 apartments impacting 50,000 (1/3 of the population) people at one of three town squares. Yep, the sky is falling.

IMHO a few hundred more people in Brownwood square at night all trying to get a seat and dance would actually make a huge difference
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IMHO a few hundred more people in Brownwood square at night all trying to get a seat and dance would actually make a huge difference
Hmmmm... maybe that would make a 4th square more attractive. Or maybe restaurants/retail businesses would be interested in Brownwood because of the increased traffic.
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IMHO a few hundred more people in Brownwood square at night all trying to get a seat and dance would actually make a huge difference
So you think The Lofts will have 100% representation at the square every night?

Or is it more likely the residents may be a bit older, maybe living alone, or maybe just not going out 7 nights a week?
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