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What is the hold up with getting our ELECTED commissioner back to doing the peoples’s work? Commissioner Miller was elected to do a job. We certainly don’t need the governor putting someone in none of us chose. No disrespect intended towards the two, just want democracy not communism.

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The poor guy is the poster child selected to put everyone on notice of what will happen to them if they cross the entity that controls Sumter County on an issue that is deemed important. After the horror he has been dragged through, he would be crazy to want to go back to trying to represent “the people”.
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What is the hold up with getting our ELECTED commissioner back to doing the peoples’s work? Commissioner Miller was elected to do a job. We certainly don’t need the governor putting someone in none of us chose. No disrespect intended towards the two, just want democracy not communism.

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Doesn't someone have to step down for that to happen ?
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Isn't there still an open case about the Sunset law violations??
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Three hours for a thread to last about a convicted felon politician ............ that's doing very well.

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Three hours for a thread to last about a convicted felon politician ............ that's doing very well.

Doesn’t overturned and exonerated mean it was determined he was wrongfully convicted and never should have been convicted?
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Doesn’t overturned and exonerated mean it was determined he was wrongfully convicted and never should have been convicted?
but he WAS convicted.............which is all my statement indicates.
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Not wanting to get into a peeing contest, Mr. Sage, and I'm not a lawyer. (Perhaps you are.) But if the conviction was overturned and the man in question was exonerated, is it fair to call him a convicted felon?
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Not wanting to get into a peeing contest, Mr. Sage, and I'm not a lawyer. (Perhaps you are.) But if the conviction was overturned and the man in question was exonerated, is it fair to call him a convicted felon?
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but he WAS convicted.............which is all my statement indicates.
Oh, okay. Then it makes sense for me to refer to the two year olds who are posting on the forum.

And really, I didn’t (still don’t) clearly see the past tense in your comment.
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Doesn't someone have to step down for that to happen ?
Having read most of the testimony & text messages, as well as the original conviction, I was shocked by the recent exoneration. You can never tell what a court might do.

All that said, it presents an interesting situation. Obviously, the electorate has been deprived of representation by their duly elected Commissioner since Miller was ousted. The fact that Miller was eventually exonerated, will never erase the stigma that's now attached to him, even if he decides to run again.

Allowing politics to influence the Judicial system is a dangerous road and clearly what happened in this situation.

Congratulations to Mr. Miller for toughing it out and coming out a winner.

(& at least according to what I read, he's been exonerated ... which would mean he's no longer a "convicted felon".)
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Oh, okay. Then it makes sense for me to refer to the two year olds who are posting on the forum.

And really, I didn’t (still don’t) clearly see the past tense in your comment.
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Let’s put aside that both Miller and Search violated the Sunshine Law numerous times AFTER they were told not to discuss county business in private. Both Search and Miller were terrible commissioners. Remember, they were still on the BOCC when the independent commission recommended that VPSD and Sumter Fire be combined. If not for the public outrage there would be no VPSD.

Instead of negotiating with the developer on Road Impact fees they just went ahead and crammed down huge increases for small businesses that would of stagnated small business growth here (see Don Wiley / Goldwingnut video about how much that would have cost small businesses outside of the developer). UF was so unnerved by the move they moved their planned hospital from Sumter to Lake county. Luckily the legislature stepped in to reverse the move.

Finally there was an election last year and Millers seat was filled. So if he wants to run again he can do so in 24. Why anyone would want him on the BOCC is beyond me, but hey he can try if he wants.
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Doesn't someone have to step down for that to happen ?
No, the only thing that would be in question would be any pertinent votes his substitute voted on. He was suspended from his post wrongly. Suspended isn’t permanent. Will all the substitute’s votes stand?
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What is the hold up with getting our ELECTED commissioner back to doing the peoples’s work? Commissioner Miller was elected to do a job. We certainly don’t need the governor putting someone in none of us chose. No disrespect intended towards the two, just want democracy not communism.

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The people in office were ALL elected in the last election so they are chosen by us. I would suggest if Miller is still interested in being a commissioner, he should run in the next election. It's not that far away and people are already filing their paperwork!
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