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Old 11-16-2023, 06:25 AM
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Not wanting to get into a peeing contest, Mr. Sage, and I'm not a lawyer. (Perhaps you are.) But if the conviction was overturned and the man in question was exonerated, is it fair to call him a convicted felon?
No, he has no record of conviction.
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Old 11-16-2023, 06:48 AM
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Mr. Miller lied under oath. The appeals court found his lie did not constitute perjury due to the "correction" of his lie when confronted with the facts.
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Can Mr. Miller now sue the State of Florida for wrongful conviction?
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Old 11-16-2023, 06:54 AM
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Can Mr. Miller now sue the State of Florida for wrongful conviction?
From a law firm website:

Those who are eligible can collect $50,000 per year of wrongful incarceration, up to a maximum of $2 million dollars. However, compensation is rare because the bar for eligibility is set very high. Many people in prison for decades in Florida have been exonerated based on newly available evidence, such as DNA testing.
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Not wanting to get into a peeing contest, Mr. Sage, and I'm not a lawyer. (Perhaps you are.) But if the conviction was overturned and the man in question was exonerated, is it fair to call him a convicted felon?
No... thats the whole point. Put through hell then found not guilty after all. Witch hunt comes to mind...

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Old 11-16-2023, 07:24 AM
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Isn't there still an open case about the Sunset law violations??
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Old 11-16-2023, 07:28 AM
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Oren is a true American and we the people voted him in until DeSantis was asked by a political contributor in TV to get involved. Unfortunately that is the result of large campaign contributions. Oren you are the best and did not deserve what happened to you
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Old 11-16-2023, 07:47 AM
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Seriously? His partner admitted his guilt. His values are not in line with most Villagers.
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Old 11-16-2023, 07:50 AM
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The UF hospital move a short distance to be in Lake County is a moot point. IF it ever actually gets built, as a non - profit entity they will apply for and get property tax exemption. So no real loss to Sumter county in terms of tax dollars and a gain for Sumter county in terms of less services needed to be provided long term. The short term loss would be the impact fees for construction, but they don’t cover all of the actual costs so now Lake County can cover that too!
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Seriously? His partner admitted his guilt. His values are not in line with most Villagers.
Is that where most Villagers like higher taxes so The Developer can rake it in while skipping impact fees?

2,500 a home verses the rest of the state’s developer’s paying 25,000 dollars per home? All because we love taxes!
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Mr. Miller lied under oath. The appeals court found his lie did not constitute perjury due to the "correction" of his lie when confronted with the facts.
Did he lie or did he fall to correct a prosecutor’s lie?

"He then drilled down on the prosecutor’s implicit claim, that an investigator can lie to a suspect, and if the suspect doesn’t correct them, they’re guilty of perjury, even if they’ve made contrary claims elsewhere in the interview. “Can a failure to correct — what you just described, he should have corrected … can the failure to correct then form in part or in whole a basis for perjury?” Sound asked. "
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Seriously? His partner admitted his guilt. His values are not in line with most Villagers.
From what I have read on these boards, most Villagers cannot agree on what values are in line with most Villagers.
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Old 11-16-2023, 07:55 AM
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Miller still violated the campaign finance laws and gift laws. He paid fines for each of these transgressions which were not overturned by the court.
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Old 11-16-2023, 08:00 AM
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Seriously? His partner admitted his guilt. His values are not in line with most Villagers.
I thought there were two different cases! One was the sunshine law which his partner admitted guilt. I have not seen the status of this case so may still be an open issue. What he was convicted of was "lying under oath". He was exonerated by a panel of judges due to the fact that he did later tell the truth. The perjury case, I believe, had nothing to do with his "partner" admitting guilt or the Sunshine Law case.
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Old 11-16-2023, 08:17 AM
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I thought there were two different cases! One was the sunshine law which his partner admitted guilt. I have not seen the status of this case so may still be an open issue. What he was convicted of was "lying under oath". He was exonerated by a panel of judges due to the fact that he did later tell the truth. The perjury case, I believe, had nothing to do with his "partner" admitting guilt or the Sunshine Law case.
The perjury charge was due to denying that conversations occurred that violated the sunshine laws. Both said no conversations occurred, both were arrested for perjury based on those denials, Search took a plea deal that granted him immunity and expungement of the perjury charge.
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