[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Jerseyborn

Even though wearing a mask is more protective of your neighbor, it also offers a percentage of protection to the one wearing the mask.

True. Maybe 0.001%

[merrymini]

I wish people who make no sense would shut up and not expect us to read missives that run for untold paragraphs of junk.

[ts12755]

We are just destroying people. Families, lives, businesses by locking down. Open all businesses, schools, etc... let this virus rage and it will be gone or under control, like Spanish flu, in 18 months. Remember, 80% of the population won't even know they have this virus.

[donassaid]

Just one question. If masks work so well, with 90% or more wearing masks all the time, why is the virus still "exploding" across the country, even in states with draconian lockdiwns? Just saying.

[oneclickplus]

Originally Posted by gatorbill1

At The Villages Health, we care for almost 60,000 patients. As of December 4, we know of 356 cases with 75 hospitalizations and eight deaths.

So, in a population of generally seniors, we have an infection rate of about half a percent (.59% or .0059); about 1 in every 200 is infected (not necessarily sick or even have symptoms). Less than a quarter of those or about 1/10th of 1% (.00125) see the inside of a hospital. And a whopping death rate of about 1/100th of 1% (0.000133).

Tell me again why the country is locked down, businesses and livelihood are being destroyed, suicides and depression are way up. I'm sorry but it's time for some serious civil disobedience - a serious push back against those in power who are destroying America for 0.000133

It's not that I don't care. I care very much about the 99.987%; that is, everyone else. Why don't others?

This is not political. I'm just doing the math presented.

[FromNY]

Because many are not wearing the masks appropriately. Or are using Masks that do not provide protection. So they are having false sense of security. Unfortunately most people are not taught how to wear and care for masks. Sad sad...

[jacksonbrown]

Asymptomatic people who test positive for CV are not necessarily contagious.

Calling an incidence of a positive test a “case” is highly misleading, for it implies illness or impairment, when many people suffer no symptoms at all.

Why bother to find out if we have this new bug if we feel fine and have no symptoms of illness.

It’s high time to boot out the BS regarding CV, beginning with the fib that “testing positive” means there’s another “case of CV ” that must be reported to the public.

Is it that THE daily tally reports on “cases” help keep the public brainwashed and compliant?

For the many who continue to accept as true what they get from television and from other mainstream media regarding CV, thinking that, well, “those news reporters wouldn’t be lying,” I have this to say "if you think the mainstream news delivers the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, you had better think again".

[jacksonbrown]

Originally Posted by FromNY

Because many are not wearing the masks appropriately. Or are using Masks that do not provide protection. So they are having false sense of security. Unfortunately most people are not taught how to wear and care for masks. Sad sad...

We were in attendance for last Saturday's Lady Lake Christmas Parade.

While I can understand that many on the sidelines chose not to wear any mask, many of these ladies wore only a clear face shield, which does little to provide for any protection from the CV.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by jacksonbrown

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Why bother to find out if we have this new bug if we feel fine and have no symptoms of illness.

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Perhaps for the 100,000+ who don't feel fine and are currently hospitalized, the 287,000 who have died and don't feel anything at all, and the hundreds of millions who are trying to avoid becoming infected and rolling the dice on how they will feel.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Perhaps for the 100,000+ who don't feel fine and are currently hospitalized, the 287,000 who have died and don't feel anything at all, and the hundreds of millions who are trying to avoid becoming infected and rolling the dice on how they will feel.

I must be missing something---that response made no sense to me
You mean people should get tested for the dead victims? Those already in the hospital (which I doubt is 100K). The general population?--I doubt you will come into contact with hundreds of millions of people

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by jacksonbrown

We were in attendance for last Saturday's Lady Lake Christmas Parade.

While I can understand that many on the sidelines chose not to wear any mask, many of these ladies wore only a clear face shield, which does little to provide for any protection from the CV.

You probably want a better example. 1. Clear face shields DO provide some protection, particularly by preventing droplets from traveling away from the nose and mouth. 2. Those ladies appear to be more than six feet from each other and from the sidelines. 3. Two out of the three ladies pictured clearly enough to determine what they are wearing ARE wearing masks.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I must be missing something---that response made no sense to me

We (in the larger sense) should find out if we have this bug, even if we don't have symptoms, in order to protect those around us. It isn't about whether *I* feel sick, it's about whether I might be contagious and make someone else sick. While I have no symptoms and feel fine, the person I infect may not be as fortunate.

And yes, of course, there is little need to get tested if you have had no known exposure to the virus.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

We (in the larger sense) should find out if we have this bug, even if we don't have symptoms, in order to protect those around us. It isn't about whether *I* feel sick, it's about whether I might be contagious and make someone else sick. While I have no symptoms and feel fine, the person I infect may not be as fortunate.

And yes, of course, there is little need to get tested if you have had no known exposure to the virus.

If you are positive, but have no symptoms of coughing/sneezing and stay 6 feet away from others, you won't infect anyone regardless of whether you have been tested or wear a mask

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

If you are positive, but have no symptoms of coughing/sneezing and stay 6 feet away from others, you won't infect anyone regardless of whether you have been tested or wear a mask

Thank you for the advice, but that may not help the others in my household. While I might be able to stay six feet away, I will still be exhaling into a a shared enclosed area and I will be touching shared items. If I am infected then the best advice is to isolate. But, I will only know if I am infected by getting a test.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Thank you for the advice, but that may not help the others in my household. While I might be able to stay six feet away, I will still be exhaling into a a shared enclosed area and I will be touching shared items. If I am infected then the best advice is to isolate. But, I will only know if I am infected by getting a test.

So what and so what? Surface to human transmission is essentially zero, and unless you live in a 6 foot closet with no ventilation, normal breathing is highly unlikely to put enough viable virus into the air others breathe to infect them. But if you live in close contact with multiple family members I would wear a mask and isolate as much as possible also. It probably won't make a difference in terms of whether or not a family member gets COVID, but you would feel awful if someone in your home contracted it.