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Old 02-04-2023, 06:31 PM
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Its most likely NOT that you cannot pass, its that there is not enough diamond lane space to actually pass, without crossing the white lane stripe and then occupying the vehicular traffic lane.
Its the "use" of the vehicular lane by non licensed, slow speed vehicle that's at issue.
Its a technicality,
that as pointed out, land contradictory to driveway/turn lane use by carts or when the cart path ends and merges with vehicular lane as they sometimes do.

Further to the point, what about when walkers that are facing the wrong way, walking in the diamond lane?
On coming cart traffic isn't suppose to drift out and pass them on the outside? Hows that work exactly?

I've encountered some walkers that refuse to even budge an inch, as if right or wrong, a contact encounter with an oncoming cart doing 25mph is somehow going to be a winning situation for them....
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Old 02-04-2023, 06:35 PM
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My previous comment was to is not legal the cross the lines TO PASS, yes you need to cross these lines to make LEFT turns, which as I understand it is legal WITH TURN SIGNALS.
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My previous comment was to is not legal the cross the lines TO PASS, yes you need to cross these lines to make LEFT turns, which as I understand it is legal WITH TURN SIGNALS.
Agreed.
My guess is, whom ever is claiming they received a traffic citation, was probably occupying the vehicular lane for more/longer than just passing or to make a turn - or the officer thought they had been do so.
I can see both possibilities.
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I’ve seen discussions recently about this as well. So….you’re following a slower moving vehicle in the cart lane. You come upon a side street. The white line is broken crossing the side street. Can you now go into the traffic lane, around the slower cart/bike etc and back into the cart lane?
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Whats the worry, I watch cars, lawn service, UPS, and USPS trucks exhilarating, crossing the double yellow, to get ahead of the merging golf cart traffic, that has already merged, all over the Villages.

Guessing they aren’t worried about a potential ticket
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Old 02-05-2023, 05:23 AM
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Deb Penney LeMay On Villages FB group posted her being ticketed for passing a slow cart. She can probably get it tossed if she takes it to court. The solid white line designates the multi modal lane. It does not define a no passing zone.
Deputy Fife needs to get a clue and stop harassing law abiding Villagers.
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I’ve seen discussions recently about this as well. So….you’re following a slower moving vehicle in the cart lane. You come upon a side street. The white line is broken crossing the side street. Can you now go into the traffic lane, around the slower cart/bike etc and back into the cart lane?
If there is no traffic to hit you and no officer to give you a ticket then yes. (if a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it.....)

How about if you are in a car on a two-way road with a solid yellow line to your left. When you come to an intersection the solid yellow line is broken for the length of the intersection. Can you now go into the oncoming lane, around the slower car in front of you, then back into your lane (pass in an intersection)?
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From the Florida manual used to prepare for the driving test:

Solid White Line

A solid white line marks the edge of the roadway or separates lanes of traffic moving in the same direction. You may travel in the same direction on both sides of this line, but you should not cross the line unless you must do so to avoid a hazard.
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Bicycles are hazards.
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You are right about Pinellas. But think about this, going west on Pinellas to the Sanibel neighborhood mail station, to get there making a left turn a golf cart has to cross over the solid white diamond lane line then the solid double yellow center lane dividers. Both must be illegal according to what is being stated in this thread. Even cars going west and turning left into that mail station must cross the double yellow center dividing lines. Does that mean left turns at that location is not allowed?

What about all the left turns off Pinellas into the neighborhoods? The golf cart lanes don't have a break in the solid white diamond lane marker as you approach these left turns. Does that mean you could be ticketed because a golf cart has to cross the solid white line to get in the car traffic lane.

Something sounds contradictory here.
The VHA has a Golf Cart Safety class monthly at Colony RC. While you cannot cross the line to pass, you CAN cross the line to go into the main road BEFORE the intersection (after signaling and seeing it is safe). While signaling again, you turn left - just as a car would. You should NOT turn left from the cart lane AT the intersection (where the line DOES break) - this has caused several accidents - and deaths - over the years. I verified this process with Wildwood PD.
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Old 02-05-2023, 06:37 AM
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Bicycles are hazards.
Not bicycles, people are hazards.
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You are right about Pinellas. But think about this, going west on Pinellas to the Sanibel neighborhood mail station, to get there making a left turn a golf cart has to cross over the solid white diamond lane line then the solid double yellow center lane dividers. Both must be illegal according to what is being stated in this thread. Even cars going west and turning left into that mail station must cross the double yellow center dividing lines. Does that mean left turns at that location is not allowed?

What about all the left turns off Pinellas into the neighborhoods? The golf cart lanes don't have a break in the solid white diamond lane marker as you approach these left turns. Does that mean you could be ticketed because a golf cart has to cross the solid white line to get in the car traffic lane.

Something sounds contradictory here.
Believe the meaning was never to “pass” another vehicle by crossing the lines. Certainly one would need to cross the lines to make a left turn into a
Driveway unless at an intersection
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Old 02-05-2023, 06:38 AM
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I get off multi modal path because of the slow bike & walking traffic and it is hard to pass with splits, tunnels and curves. I’ll take the risk & pass on the roads
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Old 02-05-2023, 06:41 AM
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I’ve seen discussions recently about this as well. So….you’re following a slower moving vehicle in the cart lane. You come upon a side street. The white line is broken crossing the side street. Can you now go into the traffic lane, around the slower cart/bike etc and back into the cart lane?
Interesting! Following the letter and not the intent. Hmmm…
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Old 02-05-2023, 06:48 AM
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Ok. Now the elephant in the room…..Top speed on my cart is 20 mph. I do see it reach 21 mph downhill or in a strong tailwind. EVERYBODY passes me. Should I “adjust” that little spring so I can increase speed by 5 mph?! Probably illegal but it would help a lot of cart drivers behind me better avoid a ticket. A conundrum.
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