[Laker14]

Originally Posted by blueash

316.2045 Obstruction of public streets, highways, and roads.—
(1)(a) A person may not willfully obstruct the free, convenient, and normal use of a public street, highway, or road by:
1. Impeding, hindering, stifling, retarding, or restraining traffic or passage thereon;


Note that Florida law defines a street as being obstructed when traffic is being impeded, retarded etc. It does not seem to require that traffic be completely blocked for an obstruction to exist.

Could a sharp lawyer make an argument that under the law the slow golf cart represented an impediment and restraint to the normal use of the road. And this statute calls such an impediment an OBSTRUCTION

You're welcome. Now you better be prepared to show that you passed a golf cart that was going very much under the speed limit, not that your souped up illegal cart wanted to fly by a cart going only 18 MPH.

It also might be best to not pull out when there is a cop in the lane, as clearly the person who got the ticket did so in front of a cop

Ok, this makes more sense to me. Seems to me in practical application, the only problem you might run into is passing another golf cart, which probably isn't going to be necessary, unless as someone else stated, you feel the need to pass the 18mph golf cart because you want to go 20+.
Bikes are OK to pass, and it's OK to turn left, or to avoid a hazard, which I would assume would include a stopped utility vehicle, or even one going very slowly while spraying or mowing.
I think, personally, I can live with this. But then, I am not one who needs to pass so I can go 20+.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by Hardlyworking

Not necessarily. Rental carts are governed at 14 mph.

Fake News.

Family just (last week) rented from The Villages, ran 20 mph.

[Bilyclub]

I might have missed it, but does it say what street and where the ticket was written. I can see the Sheriff taking heat for all the accidents happening on Morse, North of 466.

[jimjamuser]

[QUOTE=Laker14;2183393]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

I guess one has to make a value judgement. What is more valuable? The money I might have to pay on the slim chance I get ticketed, or the time I'll waste over the course of my remaining days on earth waiting for slow traffic?

I'll take my chances passing the bicyclist going 5mph up the incline.

I would just ask, what about the life of the person that you are passing or the person that through NO fault of their own gets hit in a head-on collision? I prefer to take a mental margarita and be HAPPY that I am retired and left that HURRY, hurry stuff in my rearview mirror. But, unfortunately, humans are a creature of habit.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by justjim

I agree - you are technically spot on. Take the muti-modal trails when you are running late for your tee time!

Some might ask . "whose fault is that LATE business " anyway? Tee times are not quite as important as something important like getting to a hospital or a fireman to a fire. Or Police to a home robbery.

[DaveK]

Originally Posted by villagetinker

I have been driving since 1966, and I still remember my driving instructor stating you NEVER cross double yellow lines or solid WHITE lines to pass. On a side note, I see this all the time on Pinellas Place.

VT is correct. I have been driving 12 years longer that him and it was that way when I took Driver's Ed. The rule of law in almost all states is that you are not permitted to cross a solid line of any color. The color only indicates whether there is opposing traffic (yellow) or traffic moving in your direction (white). In the glorious six lanes of traffic in downtown Atlanta, the HOV lane is separated from the other five lanes by a solid white line. Periodically, this solid white line changes to a dashed line where drivers are permitted to exit or enter the HOV lane.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by villagetinker

I have been driving since 1966, and I still remember my driving instructor stating you NEVER cross double yellow lines or solid WHITE lines to pass. On a side note, I see this all the time on Pinellas Place.

That just shows that there are NOT enough Police in TV Land. If there were then people would NOT be driving recklessly. Also,, what happens if there is some kind of a "whacko shooter" incident here in The Villages like we are seeing INCREASING around the country? Do we have to wait until they get here from Ocala or Orlando?
......If local Police are NOT numerous enough to stop SIMPLE reckless driving, how can we count on them to provide SAFETY in a serious situation? Is local property taxes NOT high enough to hire MORE officers?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by LAFwUs

Its most likely NOT that you cannot pass, its that there is not enough diamond lane space to actually pass, without crossing the white lane stripe and then occupying the vehicular traffic lane.
Its the "use" of the vehicular lane by non licensed, slow speed vehicle that's at issue.
Its a technicality,
that as pointed out, land contradictory to driveway/turn lane use by carts or when the cart path ends and merges with vehicular lane as they sometimes do.

Further to the point, what about when walkers that are facing the wrong way, walking in the diamond lane?
On coming cart traffic isn't suppose to drift out and pass them on the outside? Hows that work exactly?

I've encountered some walkers that refuse to even budge an inch, as if right or wrong, a contact encounter with an oncoming cart doing 25mph is somehow going to be a winning situation for them....

Just today, I pulled up to a stop sign in a residential area. As I eased out so that I could see around about a 3 ft diameter hedge plant that someone had planted right up to the street. (maybe to keep cars from turning on their grass or sprinkles). As I SLOWLY pulled out to turn right, I saw a woman walking a dog about 25 % into the street and walking toward me. Suddenly, I saw a car coming fast and the driver had pulled around the lady and was full out IN the lane of the 2 lane street that I intended to turn into. If I had taken the turn like some people do in a rolling stop, he would have hit me. If I had NOT been paying attention and driving defensively and braked hard, he would have hit me.
....... So my bigger question is...........Why would someone plant a bush near a stop sign and close to the street so that a car can not see to their right? And why do NOT the community service people driving around have the AUTHORITY and competence to be able to FORESEE problems in advance - that the landscaping in peoples' yards can cause an accident. I have seen MORE than one situation where landscaping can CAUSE an accident. I have NEVER in 10 years heard that Community Service issued a warning ticket about PASSIVE SAFETY issues like that !

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by thelegges

Whats the worry, I watch cars, lawn service, UPS, and USPS trucks exhilarating, crossing the double yellow, to get ahead of the merging golf cart traffic, that has already merged, all over the Villages.

Guessing they aren’t worried about a potential ticket

Again, we need more Police and dedicated ones because if they MISS the little things, they are going to MESS up the life and death emergencies.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Just today, I pulled up to a stop sign in a residential area. As I eased out so that I could see around about a 3 ft diameter hedge plant that someone had planted right up to the street. (maybe to keep cars from turning on their grass or sprinkles). As I SLOWLY pulled out to turn right, I saw a woman walking a dog about 25 % into the street and walking toward me. Suddenly, I saw a car coming fast and the driver had pulled around the lady and was full out IN the lane of the 2 lane street that I intended to turn into. If I had taken the turn like some people do in a rolling stop, he would have hit me. If I had NOT been paying attention and driving defensively and braked hard, he would have hit me.
....... So my bigger question is...........Why would someone plant a bush near a stop sign and close to the street so that a car can not see to their right? And why do NOT the community service people driving around have the AUTHORITY and competence to be able to FORESEE problems in advance - that the landscaping in peoples' yards can cause an accident. I have seen MORE than one situation where landscaping can CAUSE an accident. I have NEVER in 10 years heard that Community Service issued a warning ticket about PASSIVE SAFETY issues like that !

Maybe they could answer your questions. Your observation is serious enough to let them know.

Community Watch
1135 Bonita Boulevard
The Villages, FL 32162

Phone: 352-753-0550

[Papa_lecki]

Originally Posted by Bilyclub

I might have missed it, but does it say what street and where the ticket was written. I can see the Sheriff taking heat for all the accidents happening on Morse, North of 466.

I’m calling fake news….

Officer to golf cart driver: license and uuuh regis…drivers license please?
golf cart driver: i dont need a driver’s license to operate a golf cart
Officer: name
Golf cart driver: My name is Chi Chi Sanchez
….
Get the point, to whom do you write the ticker, what’s the penalty? Fine? Don’t share your address? Loss of license?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Fake News.

Family just (last week) rented from The Villages, ran 20 mph.

They admitted they weren't sure about the speed in a subsequent post...

[sad_sack]

To the OP - What is N***D***? Why don't you spell it out to begin with?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by sad_sack

To the OP - What is N***D***? Why don't you spell it out to begin with?

N e x t D o o r. The software here does prohibit certain words/phrases. Don't know if that is one of them...

[Hardlyworking]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Fake News.

Family just (last week) rented from The Villages, ran 20 mph.

Just stating my experience.