[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

The don’t belong to the Developer.

Again, based on what I know about land developers, I would have to agree. They do not belong to the developer.

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

You are being too kind. They are just flat out lying about having three theaters. I have asked them several times to update their website, and they have refused to do it. It is an intentional lie.

That's a real point...

[Taltarzac725]

I believe the Rialto is a gym now.

It was the only theater here in the Villages when we moved here in June of 2005.

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[Papa_lecki]

Originally Posted by Rainger99

Do the executive courses make money? Do the pickleball courts make money? Do the flowers make money?

Um, we pay for those amenities with our amenities fees.

If you want amenity fees to go to subsidize the theaters, let the amenity authority know.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki

Um, we pay for those amenities with our amenities fees.

If you want amenity fees to go to subsidize the theaters, let the amenity authority know.

I am pretty sure the Developers were funding the Villages theaters. They have private viewing boxes in the Old Mill Playhouse and did have one at the Barnstorm Theater.

They were not about making money but creating a lifestyle for retirees who had grown up going to movies.

[Papa_lecki]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

I am pretty sure the Developers were funding the Villages theaters. They have private viewing boxes in the Old Mill Playhouse and did have one at the Barnstorm Theater.

They were not about making money but creating a lifestyle for retirees who had grown up going to movies.

Maybe the developer was subsidizing the theaters, in Spanish Springs, when they were selling houses north of 466A - but they don’t need to subsidize theaters for south of 44 - villages are selling out in a half day.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki

Maybe the developer was subsidizing the theaters, in Spanish Springs, when they were selling houses north of 466A - but they don’t need to subsidize theaters for south of 44 - villages are selling out in a half day.

True but if they do not intend to reopen the theater and apparently they do not they should change their literature accordingly.

[Worldseries27]

Originally Posted by gizmowhiskers

that's a real point...

idk.
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[Worldseries27]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

you are being too kind. They are just flat out lying about having three theaters. I have asked them several times to update their website, and they have refused to do it. It is an intentional lie.

idk. They have 3 theaters. The deception is that all 3 are not operating.
The fine print counts. The devil is always in the details

[margaretmattson]

[QUOTE=Taltarzac725;2233080]I am pretty sure the Developers were funding the Villages theaters. They have private viewing boxes in the Old Mill Playhouse and did have one at the Barnstorm Theater.

They were not about making money but creating a lifestyle for retirees who had grown up going to movies.[/QUOTE

I have seen developers negotiate leases with kickbacks like a private viewing box. The developer is merely exercising his right to use a portion of his property for personal use as long as it is agreed upon by both parties. It does not mean that he is involved in the daily operation of that commercial business.

The villages is a unique entity and I love learning more about it every day. I would really love to hear from someone in the know!

[Taltarzac725]

[QUOTE=margaretmattson;2233088]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

I am pretty sure the Developers were funding the Villages theaters. They have private viewing boxes in the Old Mill Playhouse and did have one at the Barnstorm Theater.

They were not about making money but creating a lifestyle for retirees who had grown up going to movies.[/QUOTE

I have seen developers negotiate leases with kickbacks like a private viewing box. The developer is merely exercising his right to use a portion of his property for personal use as long as it is agreed upon by both parties. It does not mean that he is involved in the daily operation of that commercial business.

The villages is a unique entity and I love learning more about it every day. I would really love to hear from someone in the know!

I have never seen any indication that the Villages theaters were privately owned. None at all. Restaurants yes as I know some relatives of some of their owners. And used to talk to the former owner of Red Sauce when she would bring her family's pooch to a local dog park and go over how difficult it was sometimes to get the cooks' needed ingredients in on a timely basis. Her and her husband had come before Red Sauce had even opened for business in Sumter Landing. But after they opened he was needed at the restaurant.

[Rainger99]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

The don’t belong to the Developer.

I didn’t say they did. I don’t think the amenities are there to make a profit.

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

True but if they do not intend to reopen the theater and apparently they do not they should change their literature accordingly.

Exactly, anyone take the "trolley tour" recently? What does T V say about what USED to be a gorgeous theater at Brownwood?

Do they say "and on your right, you see the theater 'facade' that was here once upon a time, back when old people enjoyed taking their grandkids to see a movie. Since they don't want to do that anymore, look left"?

[spinner1001]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

With creative advertising they could easily get people into the theater. Especially if they show older movies and bring them in with the interests of various clubs here in the Villages.

Church groups, schools, nursing homes, sports groups, etc., could bring in their own special audiences.

A straightforward test: You can personally go into the Old Mill Playhouse theater in Lake Sumter Landing two times per week on random days at random show times over six months and count the number of people in the seats. Divide your total headcount by the number of the movie showings you attended. That’s an indication of the market size (demand for movie theater attendance in TV). Then, assuming a Brownwood theater will double the theater seating capacity in TV (supply), one-half of your average showing head count in your OMP research is an indication of attendance at a Brownwood theater. (Fixed market demand with twice the supply of seats.)

You can argue a bunch of reasons that amount would be higher than one-half of your OMP average head count. Fine. So double it.

Now, on an Excel spreadsheet, prepare a business plan for a Brownwood theater with your assumed average headcount, your assumed average revenue per person for admission and food ($10?), and then subtract operating costs including paying film distributors, wages and benefits for workers and management, food purchases, and electricity.

Take the result to the Developer. Oh, wait. The Developer likely already has that sort of financial information and the bottom line is inadequate. At least you learned something.

At least go to the OMP theater several times and count the number of people in each showing and multiply it by the ticket price you paid plus a drink price. Then think about the nontrivial fixed and variable costs of operating the theater. You can do that. My guess is the bottom line for a Brownwood is an operating loss.

Argue all you want but please at least put some numbers in your argument.

[Ponygirl]

Per Genesis fitness in SS Rialto has already been demolished inside and the fitness center moves there in March with all new equipment

Next question is what happens to that beautiful building that house the fitness center

As far as classic movies last year the Sharon showed some great movies like “Gypsy” “Little Shop of Horrors” We saw several movies Excellent to see movies on that big screen. Like watching a Broadway show for the musicals

BUT in that huge theater there were less than 5 people for every show. More people working than in the theater And they also had. Special drinks that reflected the movie

I could never understand why people didn’t come

Soooo. I would say that’s one reason that the BW theater won’t reopen