[coralway]

It’s every man, and woman, for themselves. Courtesy, and common sense, don’t work here.

[shut the front door]

Originally Posted by SaucyJim

My two cents (that's you're about to get for FREE!):

I did not move to TV to be in a hurry. However, if I do have an appointment and time is a factor, I'll use my actual car. If I'm in a golf car, I am not in a hurry and am happy to drive the speed of a bicycle for as long as required before I pass -- if I pass at all. Something I've learned relatively quickly (being a new permanent resident) is that my golf cart experience is so much nicer when I do not have the pedal to the metal. The cart is quieter and conversations with my favorite passenger (hi, Honey!) or listening to music are much more enjoyable. Slow down. Take in the scenery. Practice gratitude for all you have here. Never forget the smog, the traffic jams, and the stress of driving every day to a full-time job.

On another note, I also make it a point to pull over for cars when on residential streets. If they want to go faster, I let them. I am surprised, however, at the lack of "thank you" waves I get for being so considerate. But I'm not doing it for them, anyway. That's all I have to say about that.

I think I've passed you before. On my bicycle.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by asianthree

I rode long distance until we moved here. I will load bike and travel to safer paths that allow bikes, but not golf cart. I never ride the roads here.

No matter how you feel about bikes vs cart vs car, but bike will always loose. I get it every one feels their way is correct, but correct doesn’t mean you will arrive safely. We have plenty of elderly who shouldn’t be driving a cart or car. Vision can be sketchy, you are in their blind spot, or they are just unaware they are actually driving in the cart lane in their car.

I will say if I have to be on MMP path I own the lane means I own the middle of the lane I don’t move over for passing of faster cart. That move puts can put you off the path and in uneven grass. That said I have never had a cart try to pass in median areas, yell at me for being in the way, but then again I bike for exercise, which does not involve slow pace. I do however appreciate the cart that passes, yells out the speed, and a good job thumbs up.

I have a hybrid bike and can ride on the grass with little extra effort (unless I'm riding uphill, then it's a real problem).

What kills me is if I'm approaching an intersection, going uphill, I have a stop sign and the person on my left does NOT...and I stop - and they STOP and wave me on..I'm like - dood. You have the right of way. I've just done what I'm supposed to do, instead of rolling through, because you have the right of way. Take your damned right of way and get out of MY way.

Drives me nuts when people who DO have the right of way, just - stop, and give that right to someone else. It messes up the whole rhythm of traffic. Happens ALL THE TIME over where Lowes and BJ's are. People coming from 441 or the apartments just - stop. Neither side has a stop sign. But if the guy coming TOWARD 441 stops to let me take a left - and someone coming FROM 441 chooses to do his job and take his right of way, then I end up with a flipped-over golf cart, or my bicycle in someone's windshield.

If you have the right of way, take it. Please.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Originally Posted by asianthree

I rode long distance until we moved here. I will load bike and travel to safer paths that allow bikes, but not golf cart. I never ride the roads here.

No matter how you feel about bikes vs cart vs car, but bike will always loose. I get it every one feels their way is correct, but correct doesn’t mean you will arrive safely. We have plenty of elderly who shouldn’t be driving a cart or car. Vision can be sketchy, you are in their blind spot, or they are just unaware they are actually driving in the cart lane in their car.

I will say if I have to be on MMP path I own the lane means I own the middle of the lane I don’t move over for passing of faster cart. That move puts can put you off the path and in uneven grass. That said I have never had a cart try to pass in median areas, yell at me for being in the way, but then again I bike for exercise, which does not involve slow pace. I do however appreciate the cart that passes, yells out the speed, and a good job thumbs up.

Correct on ‘elderly that shouldn’t be driving a cart or car’...


There is nothing more sobering than staring down a vision impaired, hearing impaired octogenarian raging down an MMP with reckless abandon. Only thing close to it is attempting to exit on to Route 1 in Saugus MA (my Boston contingent on here can vouch for that comparison )!

[SXLUNA]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

As one can tell from my 2 posts above, I tend to side with the cyclist/OP. However, the post I am responding to does not help their case by statements such as "many entitled golf cart drivers", "speed ALL the time" and calling them "dolts". There are some "entitled" cyclists as well, I wouldn't say many in either group. And then, how are you going to "report" a golf cart---no tags, no numbers. Besides, the MMPs are not subject to speed limits. Given it's post #2, let's just call it a result of inexperience.

I see/read calling riders PITA is acceptable and helps the cause, got it speeder! FYI reckless driving and DUI are enforceable on private property. Speedy in a top heavy golf cart specially coming around a turn is reckless or when you lose control it is reckless!

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by SXLUNA

I see/read calling riders PITA is acceptable and helps the cause, got it speeder! FYI reckless driving and DUI are enforceable on private property. Speedy in a top heavy golf cart specially coming around a turn is reckless or when you lose control it is reckless!

That’s was the takeaway from my post??? Wow.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Velvet

One reason why a GoPro camera on your bike or cart is handy. Just clip on your helmet or cart. You have documented the incident. The other is you have pictures of your trip.

But, it will also show blowing thru stops signs?

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston

Correct on ‘elderly that shouldn’t be driving a cart or car’...


There is nothing more sobering than staring down a vision impaired, hearing impaired octogenarian raging down an MMP with reckless abandon. Only thing close to it is attempting to exit on to Route 1 in Saugus MA (my Boston contingent on here can vouch for that comparison )!

Time is coming for you

[Fastskiguy]

Originally Posted by JGibson

The MMPs are too narrow to be multiple anything.

Even trying to pass with no divider is a challenge because often you have to drive into the opposite lane to get around them.

It's probably safer to ride a bike on the interstate than on the MMPs.

It’s literally the definition of passing. You move into the oncoming lane and go around slower traffic.

I don’t know which is safer….riding the paths or riding down Morse Blvd….

Joe

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston

Correct on ‘elderly that shouldn’t be driving a cart or car’...


There is nothing more sobering than staring down a vision impaired, hearing impaired octogenarian raging down an MMP with reckless abandon. Only thing close to it is attempting to exit on to Route 1 in Saugus MA (my Boston contingent on here can vouch for that comparison )!

How about trying to get on Storrow Drive from Mass General, during the afternoon rush hour. I still remember the big sign facing Storrow: "If you lived here, you'd be home already."

Or riding a bicycle on the Boston Post Road anywhere from West Haven through Milford, CT. Yes, it's legal. Yes, it's a suicide mission.

[ElDiabloJoe]

/// not worth the effort

[Shipping up to Boston]

Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe

Similar to people that send themselves racist or other hate-filled harassments in order to play victim and get people to feel badly for them, I read this post with a huge block of salt. Not calling the OP a liar, just saying it would not shock me if the story were, ummm, a wee touch exaggerated.

Is this Jussie Smollett?!

[Cooperthecat]

Originally Posted by Regorp

My biggest pet peeve is bikes on a road with no bike/golf cart lane ie: Meggison, Morse, and Buena Vista. The bike club is the biggest offender. Use the mm path next to the road, dummies. Your own fault if something happens. Duh!!

So, when you say "Your own fault if something happens" do you mean if I run you over it's the cyclist that it at fault?

The cycling club uses the roadways and they take their safety very seriously. They're knowledgeable about the laws pertaining to riding a bike on the roads. Most of them have cameras on their bikes that just look like ordinary bike lights.

I would think twice before hitting a cyclist or trying to "flex" on them by passing closely. You may lose your argument that it's their fault.

Slow down and enjoy your retirement. It goes by too quick and you worked hard for it.

[Fastskiguy]

Originally Posted by Regorp

My biggest pet peeve is bikes on a road with no bike/golf cart lane ie: Meggison, Morse, and Buena Vista. The bike club is the biggest offender. Use the mm path next to the road, dummies. Your own fault if something happens. Duh!!

I’m so sorry you feel that way. Moving into the right lane to safety pass is simply too much a burden

Joe

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

But, it will also show blowing thru stops signs?

Since you are the only one who has the video, unless you submit it….