[srswans]

Some of the narrow, split lanes have no curbs. In those lanes, the carts can pass by dropping at least two wheels on the grass.

Short of this, split lanes are too narrow to pass with 3’ of clearance like FL law requires.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by srswans

Some of the narrow, split lanes have no curbs. In those lanes, the carts can pass by dropping at least two wheels on the grass.

Short of this, split lanes are too narrow to pass with 3’ of clearance like FL law requires.

And if 1000 Villager cart drivers put 2 wheels on the grass to pass (I'm a poet and didn't know it), how many times will someone lose control of that vehicle. And what is gained?--10,15,20 sec???

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by NotGolfer

I see on all the posts similar to this the common responses from the perpetrators will be explatives and flashing "the bird". Then folks come on social media using the expression of "entitled". THIS, to me, is getting tiresome as it's juvenile.

I recently read on FB from a link where I moved here from that the drivers were "insane" and not following the rules of the road. SOOOOO, it's not just Villagers as it must be all over. I'm so sorry that the OP was knocked off his bike but glad he wasn't injured.

Actually, the general rule of thumb is:
Anyone driving slower than you is a moron
Anyone driving faster is a maniac

[Robojo]

Originally Posted by bragones

Wednesday 6/26 AM, I was enjoying a pleasant cycle ride heading west on the 466A multi modal path. As carts would approach from behind, I would move to the side, slow down and wave the cart on. I received lots of “thank you”, waves and smiles as the cart passed. I thought to myself, this is very enjoyable. Then I came to median that divided the path into two single lanes, one for each direction. A cart came from behind and began passing me. I shouted, “don’t pass me here, it’s dangerous”. He overtook me and ran me off the path. I flew off my bike, but fortunately, onto grass and I wasn’t hurt. As I looked up I heard him yell “F YOU” and take off. Nice guy. If you are riding in a cart, pls don’t pass a cyclist riding in a multimodal path with a divider median. Let the cyclist live and enjoy. The divider always ends within several hundred feet where it will be safe to pass.

I refuse to move over. I ride at 25 mph. Slow down and fu too.
Welcome to the villages. The land of the drunk and demented.
Golf cars do NOT own those paths.

[SHIBUMI]

Golf cars that go 20 mph or less are not subject to driving laws. That being said, golf cars that go over 20 mph ARE. As most go over 20 speed it creates a me mentality for their drivers. That won't change.

I RIDE A BIKE...........I PULL OVER ON LARGER PATHS SO THEY CAN PASS. ON SMALLER PATHS I RIDE IN THE MIDDLE SO THEY CAN'T. ITS THAT SIMPLE.

This lends itself to the saying, courtesy kills. People wave you thru entrance ways while others are pulling out ahead of you. No more courtesy on these paths. Whoever has right of way should go, and only pull your bike over on larger paths as was mentioned earlier.

Sorry for your mishap..................

Originally Posted by birdiebill

By Florida law, a motorized vehicle must give at least three feet clearance when passing a bicycle. You can not pass with three feet of clearance where there is an MMP median. So I stay behind the bicycle until the way is clear and I have at least three feet of clearance to pass. Not sure how this applies to the MMP's, but I am never in such a hurry that I have to pass before the median divided MMP ends.

[jrref]

Originally Posted by bragones

Wednesday 6/26 AM, I was enjoying a pleasant cycle ride heading west on the 466A multi modal path. As carts would approach from behind, I would move to the side, slow down and wave the cart on. I received lots of “thank you”, waves and smiles as the cart passed. I thought to myself, this is very enjoyable. Then I came to median that divided the path into two single lanes, one for each direction. A cart came from behind and began passing me. I shouted, “don’t pass me here, it’s dangerous”. He overtook me and ran me off the path. I flew off my bike, but fortunately, onto grass and I wasn’t hurt. As I looked up I heard him yell “F YOU” and take off. Nice guy. If you are riding in a cart, pls don’t pass a cyclist riding in a multimodal path with a divider median. Let the cyclist live and enjoy. The divider always ends within several hundred feet where it will be safe to pass.

When you are biking in a single lane like that Always ride in the center of the path until you are back on the two lane part. This way there is no way for a cart to pass you. They just have to wait till you pass the single lane.

[bark4me]

Originally Posted by bragones

Wednesday 6/26 AM, I was enjoying a pleasant cycle ride heading west on the 466A multi modal path. As carts would approach from behind, I would move to the side, slow down and wave the cart on. I received lots of “thank you”, waves and smiles as the cart passed. I thought to myself, this is very enjoyable. Then I came to median that divided the path into two single lanes, one for each direction. A cart came from behind and began passing me. I shouted, “don’t pass me here, it’s dangerous”. He overtook me and ran me off the path. I flew off my bike, but fortunately, onto grass and I wasn’t hurt. As I looked up I heard him yell “F YOU” and take off. Nice guy. If you are riding in a cart, pls don’t pass a cyclist riding in a multimodal path with a divider median. Let the cyclist live and enjoy. The divider always ends within several hundred feet where it will be safe to pass.

Do yourself a favor. Next time, take up the entire lane until you get past the divided lanes.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by bragones

Wednesday 6/26 AM, I was enjoying a pleasant cycle ride heading west on the 466A multi modal path. As carts would approach from behind, I would move to the side, slow down and wave the cart on. I received lots of “thank you”, waves and smiles as the cart passed. I thought to myself, this is very enjoyable. Then I came to median that divided the path into two single lanes, one for each direction. A cart came from behind and began passing me. I shouted, “don’t pass me here, it’s dangerous”. He overtook me and ran me off the path. I flew off my bike, but fortunately, onto grass and I wasn’t hurt. As I looked up I heard him yell “F YOU” and take off. Nice guy. If you are riding in a cart, pls don’t pass a cyclist riding in a multimodal path with a divider median. Let the cyclist live and enjoy. The divider always ends within several hundred feet where it will be safe to pass.

One question did the golf cart have golf clubs on back of cart?

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Billrisma

This is a very good topic. I am a bike rider and drive a golf cart. There are good respectful riders and respectful cart drivers and unfortunately there are bad ones as well, as in anything…and give us bad reputations. Extra efforts on both parties keeps everyone safe.
When I ride either on MMP or public roads I wave on following cars/carts just like you do. Like wise, on narrow lanes I extend my hand down beside me with my palm facing the follower to signal…” wait please “ then wave them to pass…then usually I get a “thank you honk” in reply. Likewise when I pass walkers, I ring a bell so as not to startle then and then say “biker on your left”…usually they slide to the right, and some say thank you.
It’s called defensive riding/driving…works both ways.
Again, good worthwhile topic.

Question? Do the bad ones have golf clubs on back of cart?

[JGibson]

The MMPs are too narrow to be multiple anything.

Even trying to pass with no divider is a challenge because often you have to drive into the opposite lane to get around them.

It's probably safer to ride a bike on the interstate than on the MMPs.

[Gator_Girl]

Originally Posted by bragones

Wednesday 6/26 AM, I was enjoying a pleasant cycle ride heading west on the 466A multi modal path. As carts would approach from behind, I would move to the side, slow down and wave the cart on. I received lots of “thank you”, waves and smiles as the cart passed. I thought to myself, this is very enjoyable. Then I came to median that divided the path into two single lanes, one for each direction. A cart came from behind and began passing me. I shouted, “don’t pass me here, it’s dangerous”. He overtook me and ran me off the path. I flew off my bike, but fortunately, onto grass and I wasn’t hurt. As I looked up I heard him yell “F YOU” and take off. Nice guy. If you are riding in a cart, pls don’t pass a cyclist riding in a multimodal path with a divider median. Let the cyclist live and enjoy. The divider always ends within several hundred feet where it will be safe to pass.

I wouldn't ride a bike around here for no amount of money!

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by JGibson

The MMPs are too narrow to be multiple anything.

Even trying to pass with no divider is a challenge because often you have to drive into the opposite lane to get around them.

It's probably safer to ride a bike on the interstate than on the MMPs.

So. Naturally you wouldn’t want to pull out in other lane on curb, blind spot, or something close coming? O wait! Some do do they

[Michael 61]

Originally Posted by bragones

Wednesday 6/26 AM, I was enjoying a pleasant cycle ride heading west on the 466A multi modal path. As carts would approach from behind, I would move to the side, slow down and wave the cart on. I received lots of “thank you”, waves and smiles as the cart passed. I thought to myself, this is very enjoyable. Then I came to median that divided the path into two single lanes, one for each direction. A cart came from behind and began passing me. I shouted, “don’t pass me here, it’s dangerous”. He overtook me and ran me off the path. I flew off my bike, but fortunately, onto grass and I wasn’t hurt. As I looked up I heard him yell “F YOU” and take off. Nice guy. If you are riding in a cart, pls don’t pass a cyclist riding in a multimodal path with a divider median. Let the cyclist live and enjoy. The divider always ends within several hundred feet where it will be safe to pass.

Sorry this happened, and glad you weren’t badly injured. This is why I have decided not to ride a bicycle on the multi-modal paths here in TV. I would be a nervous wreck.

[Grammyliz]

Thank you for posting this information! I did not know that. Now I do! 😊

[Switter]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Great advice. This is why most cyclists will ride down the middle of the divided path. Unfortunately, there are also some who won't move to the right when the path is full width, and they give cyclists a bad reputation.

It's a two-lane path and there's plenty of room for passing (except for the divided portions), so I'm not sure what moving to the right accomplishes unless you think it's safe to pass a bike when there's an oncoming golf cart or on a blind corner, which it obviously is not.

I find the majority of people on golf carts that I have encountered are very courteous to me when I am riding bike and I always I try to return the favor.

Tips for bicyclists (lessons I have learned):

Know the pinch points on the paths you bike very well and try to be cognizant if a golf cart is behind you. For instance, if you are coming up to a tunnel (where there is no passing for quite a distance) and there's a golf cart behind who is close enough that he would overtake you, slow down so they can pass before you get to the tunnel. However, that can't always be done so once in a while they will just have to be stuck behind you. If they are impatient, don't let them rattle you. Just keep paying attention to your surroundings. I am sure it is annoying for them but unless the villages widens all the paths to four lanes, there's not much that can be done about it.

Ride in the evening when there's less traffic. It's cooler at that time anyways.

I never wave people to pass me. I don't want to give them a the false sense of security that it's safe to do so. The person who is doing the passing is the one who is responsible for determining when it's safe to proceeded.

Avoid the town centers, especially in the evening. There's much more traffic and a higher likelihood of people driving golf carts who are drinking.

If you don't have one, get a mirror installed on your bike and use it.

Always wear a helmet, as much as they suck.

Probably most important of all for bicyclists is to make yourself as visible as possible by using flashing lights on front and back that can be seen from a great distance. I would even recommend this for people who are walking because they are not very visible.

I have been riding the paths here for about a year now and I find them relatively safe, safer than riding on the roads here (or anywhere else for that matter).

Edit: I am truly grateful for the multimodal paths. They are absolutely beautiful with shaded trees and beautiful landscaping. It would be great if they were just dedicated bike paths but this is the next best thing. They are such a joy to ride. Hopefully everyone can take time to slow down and enjoy them (while watching the road at the same time, lol).