[Bryant]

And don't forget to include a small donation with your membership fee. Small price to pay for its worth!

[Warren Kiefer]

Originally Posted by Thnonne

In the article on "the wall" the POA had to make a negative comment about the VHA which I feel is totally uncalled for. "(No one from the VHA spoke up if there was anyone present). Why the POA feels it makes them look better to put down the VHA I don't know. To me it does the opposite, tell me I should support you because of what good you do not because of what your rival does not do. The POA bulletins in the past were very negative in their comments about the VHA and I was glad to see it stop, but it crops up again. I have not seen the same in the VHA bulletins about the POA. These two organizations should not operate like our political parties, instead work together to improve The Villages for the villagers.

Are you saying the VHA not speaking up was the right thing to do ??? In my opinion the VHA should have been deeply involved, after all they are the Villages Homeowners Association. Truthfully, I have not seen any articles of any importance in the VHA paper.

[gpirate]

Originally Posted by justjim

You are correct---electronic copy online is now available----just read it! However, not everyone has a computer or "cares" to have one. Personally, I still like my "morning paper" along with my coffee. "Old school" I guess but we do recycle our newspapers.

Thanks for the link. As I have not moved to TV yet this is good information in this monthly bulletin and I will join as soon as I purchase a home. Thanks Halibut.

[ijusluvit]

Originally Posted by Thnonne

In the article on "the wall" the POA had to make a negative comment about the VHA which I feel is totally uncalled for. "(No one from the VHA spoke up if there was anyone present). Why the POA feels it makes them look better to put down the VHA I don't know. To me it does the opposite, tell me I should support you because of what good you do not because of what your rival does not do. The POA bulletins in the past were very negative in their comments about the VHA and I was glad to see it stop, but it crops up again. I have not seen the same in the VHA bulletins about the POA. These two organizations should not operate like our political parties, instead work together to improve The Villages for the villagers.

I disagree that the comment about the VHA was negative. I see it as an important piece of factual information.

The August 12, meeting at Spanish Springs was the first open public discussion of "The Wall". Everyone in attendance heard the POA had already acted to hire an attorney to collect more information and the organization was poised to represent Villages residents in an effort to answer and resolve their concerns. The absence of the VHA from the meeting, and/or their decision to say nothing, was in itself a critically important decision on their part, and a powerful indication to the citizenry of their being in no particular hurry to represent homeowners concerns. It also lends credence to the widely held notion that the VHA was shortly thereafter coached by Ms. Tutt or other representatives of the Developer to claim it was their idea to remove the wall and install security gates.

Furthermore, the POA has done a fine job summarizing this whole issue to date in their latest bulletin. This public service will correct a lot of misunderstanding of facts and misinformation in social media and other forms of communication among residents. I haven't yet seen any helpful explanations from the VHA.

I applaud the POA efforts in this area to date, and again am reminded they are providing great service to us.

[Dbinac]

Best 10 dollars I have spent since moving to The Villages. Thanks, POA

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer

Are you saying the VHA not speaking up was the right thing to do ??? In my opinion the VHA should have been deeply involved, after all they are the Villages Homeowners Association. Truthfully, I have not seen any articles of any importance in the VHA paper.

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[Thnonne]

Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer

Are you saying the VHA not speaking up was the right thing to do ??? In my opinion the VHA should have been deeply involved, after all they are the Villages Homeowners Association. Truthfully, I have not seen any articles of any importance in the VHA paper.

I'm saying the POA should not try to promote itself by putting down the VHA, but by promoting what it does. Stating there are no articles of any importance in the VHA paper is the same type of thinking. Talk about the articles of importance in the POA paper instead if you wish to promote the POA. Again, if you want someone's support, get it by promoting yourself not by trying to denigrate others.

[Thnonne]

Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer

Are you saying the VHA not speaking up was the right thing to do ??? In my opinion the VHA should have been deeply involved, after all they are the Villages Homeowners Association. Truthfully, I have not seen any articles of any importance in the VHA paper.

I'm saying the POA should not try to promote itself by putting down the VHA, but by promoting what it does. Stating there are no articles of any importance in the VHA paper is the same type of thinking. Talk about the articles of importance in the POA paper instead if you wish to promote the POA. Again, if you want someone's support, get it by promoting yourself not by trying to denigrate others.

[Mikeod]

Originally Posted by Thnonne

I'm saying the POA should not try to promote itself by putting down the VHA, but by promoting what it does. Stating there are no articles of any importance in the VHA paper is the same type of thinking. Talk about the articles of importance in the POA paper instead if you wish to promote the POA. Again, if you want someone's support, get it by promoting yourself not by trying to denigrate others.

I don't disagree that using negative comments about your rival is not the best way to promote yourself, although it's become the norm in any election. But I didn't see the comment you cite in the same way you do. The statement merely notes the fact that, in a controversy that had the community up in arms, the POA felt it was their responsibility to attend the meeting and make known its actions to try to resolve it. In contrast, the other group either did not attend or was silent on the issue. That, to me, was newsworthy, and a factual statement. Now, if they belabored the point about the VHA, then I would agree it would be counterproductive.

[Warren Kiefer]

Originally Posted by Thnonne

I'm saying the POA should not try to promote itself by putting down the VHA, but by promoting what it does. Stating there are no articles of any importance in the VHA paper is the same type of thinking. Talk about the articles of importance in the POA paper instead if you wish to promote the POA. Again, if you want someone's support, get it by promoting yourself not by trying to denigrate others.

Just trying to make a reasonable comparison between the two associations. You know why there are two don't you?? The POA has taken on more issues that possible to mention in this comment. Some resulted in companies making repairs at no cost to the homeowner, others resulted in huge refunds from the developer and lastly, there have been several multiple million dollar lawsuits won with the POA leading the way. The POA has made several attempts to unite with the VHA on particular issues but to no avail. The following are some of the issues important to the Residents where the VHA has shown leadership.

[graciegirl]

Who is the president of the VHA and what did he have to say about the wall?

I remember something he said.

I am not thrilled about either one and probably what Thronne had to say is part of it. I like the helping part, I don't like the put down parts.

[ureout]

it just seems funny to me that after being here 11 years that the VHA finally helps solve a problem against the developer????? It happened so fast that the VHA and Janet Tutt came up with this solution.....hmmmm like it wasn't on the back burner the whole time ....and finaly the VHA gets credit for something that the developer started?????

[graciegirl]

I think...that there is something more to the slams and I can't quite figure it out.

I have a suspicion.

[Thnonne]

Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer

Just trying to make a reasonable comparison between the two associations. You know why there are two don't you?? The POA has taken on more issues that possible to mention in this comment. Some resulted in companies making repairs at no cost to the homeowner, others resulted in huge refunds from the developer and lastly, there have been several multiple million dollar lawsuits won with the POA leading the way. The POA has made several attempts to unite with the VHA on particular issues but to no avail. The following are some of the issues important to the Residents where the VHA has shown leadership.

"Truthfully, I have not seen any articles of any importance in the VHA paper." I just don't see a comment like that as a "reasonable comparison." It sounds like a put down of one group's paper by a supporter of the other group. Again tell me about the important articles in your paper rather than criticizing the other groups paper. Convince me to support your group, don't try to turn me against the other group.

[Warren Kiefer]

Originally Posted by Thnonne

"Truthfully, I have not seen any articles of any importance in the VHA paper." I just don't see a comment like that as a "reasonable comparison." It sounds like a put down of one group's paper by a supporter of the other group. Again tell me about the important articles in your paper rather than criticizing the other groups paper. Convince me to support your group, don't try to turn me against the other group.

Am I missing something here.I thought I listed a few of the MANY issues in which the POA has been directly involved. Nearly every publication of the POA bulletin will have comments and details on the many issues that seem to concern the residents. It isn't important to me that I convince anyone to accept a certain point of view. Certainly both publications gives a reader information on the activities of the associations. Read each and judge for yourself.: