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Old 04-13-2010, 01:00 PM
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I agree so much with you Russ, those same words drive me crazy too!!!

But I feel punctuation is just as important.

For instance,,,

Let's eat grandma!

is much improved with a comma

Let's eat, grandma!
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I agree so much with you Russ, those same words drive me crazy too!!!

But I feel punctuation is just as important.

For instance,,,

Let's eat grandma!

is much improved with a comma

Let's eat, grandma!
I'm not touching that one!
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You all know my other beefs (Sumter not Sumpter for example)

I have one more forum shorthand note for newbies: We like to use the abbreviation TV for THE VILLAGES. It is not TV's. The 's' is already in the word - don't add another one And don't lowercase it. That would mean television.

Guess I'm just grumpy with this new round of rain!!!
Okay, so I am new to these forums and hope to be relocating to TV this summer. My question is why wouldn't you use TV's if it is a possesive? Examples such as TV's great amenities, TV's friendly residents, or TV's English majors scream for an apostrophe.

Just an old English major asking.
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A while ago, I was composing an e-mail to a friend of mine who was shortly to be visited by her great-grandchildren.

Here's a question for you:

If I'd written great-grandchildren rather than great grand-children, how am I to be understood?

My mind says that great-grandchilren are the children of your grandchildren, or, equally, the grandchildren of your children.

But, are your great grandchildren equally your grandchildren's children or merely exceptional gradchildren?

I've always been inclined to over use the hyphen!

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Okay, so I am new to these forums and hope to be relocating to TV this summer. My question is why wouldn't you use TV's if it is a possesive? Examples such as TV's great amenities, TV's friendly residents, or TV's English majors scream for an apostrophe.

Just an old English major asking.
I guess I'll defer to Boomer on this but my take would be that since The Villages ends in an s then The Villages' pharmacy would be done this way. For short I'd leave the apostrophe off. But that's just me.
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cappyjon431, as already know, you can add the apostrophe "s" to show possession in English on words that end in an "s." The Villages's for example. It isn't necessary to add the "s". Although you should be consistent. But, if the word ends in a silent "s" like, for instance, Illinois. An apostrophe should always be used to make the noun possessive.
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Russ Boston and bkcunningham1 you are both correct. I guess if we want to use a possesive when writing about TV, it should be TV', even though this looks very awkward. Without it, how do you know it is possesive? If I wanted to write "The Villages' amenities include golf, swimming pools..." I would have to write (using the abbreviated "TV") "TV' amenities include golf, swimming pools,..." It looks strange to me. Perhaps in the future I will just write out "The Villages' when using it in a possesive form.
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You all know my other beefs (Sumter not Sumpter for example)

I have one more forum shorthand note for newbies: We like to use the abbreviation TV for THE VILLAGES. It is not TV's. The 's' is already in the word - don't add another one And don't lowercase it. That would mean television.

Guess I'm just grumpy with this new round of rain!!!
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Russ Boston and bkcunningham1 you are both correct. I guess if we want to use a possesive when writing about TV, it should be TV', even though this looks very awkward. Without it, how do you know it is possesive? If I wanted to write "The Villages' amenities include golf, swimming pools..." I would have to write (using the abbreviated "TV") "TV' amenities include golf, swimming pools,..." It looks strange to me. Perhaps in the future I will just write out "The Villages' when using it in a possesive form.
I believe Russ's initial objection was to using "TV's" to abbreviate The Villages. In that case the "apostrophe" is incorrect because The Villages is neither possessive nor a contraction; and the "s" is incorrect because the V abbreviates Villages, which already contains the "s".

If you are abbreviating a possessive form of TV then TV's is correct because, without the "appostrophe s," TV is not possessive.
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WOW... I'm impressed!!!!!!!!!
Oh well, they are just showing off. Most of them can't conjugate verbs in Latin.

And....I haven't seen a picture of a single one of those danged English majors with a megaphone or doing the splits.
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Oh well, they are just showing off. Most of them can't conjugate verbs in Latin.

And....I haven't seen a picture of a single one of those danged English majors with a megaphone or doing the splits.

Singular possessive is 's, plural possessive is s'.

If it were one Village it would be the Village's amenities.
As our hometown is The Villages, plural, it would be The Villages' amenities.

Now Boomer will have to explain what to do with the abbreviation, TV.

Amo, amas, amat.

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Singular possessive is 's, plural possessive is s'.

If it were one Village it would be the Village's amenities.
As our hometown is The Villages, plural, it would be The Villages' amenities.

Now Boomer will have to explain what to do with the abbreviation, TV.

Amo, amas, amat.

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Oh well, they are just showing off. Most of them can't conjugate verbs in Latin.

And....I haven't seen a picture of a single one of those danged English majors with a megaphone or doing the splits.
Amo, amas, amat, amamus, amatis, amant. I love, you love, he/she/it loves, we love, you (plural) love, they love.

This English major took three years of Latin but looks really bad in a cheerleader skirt and carrying pom-poms.
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See the trouble with acronyms?

I think its pom-pons, but who's counting. And, yes, I never ever know whose and who's.
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Default Oh, I do so tire of all this correct stuff.

You are right Tony. It is Pom-Pons or maybe pon-pons. But it really doesn't matter to a dumb retired cheerleader.

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