[RichieLion]

Originally Posted by Golfingnut

I am more confused now, Is richlion right or wrong? Can you get a ticket on the multi purpose trails from the country sheriffs or not? Richlion says yes and no, some say no and some say yes. I am sure richie right in one of his guesses, just don't know which one. Can someone clear us this question.

I have made no guesses but have stated information from the official District sites with certainty.

[downeaster]

Originally Posted by paulandjean

Yes,radar to pull over golf carts for speeding.Money is the reason. Do you really ever see county police outside of the villages. Turn from 466 to 301 and the police are gone,its like they never leave the villages.We left at 2am to go back up north and the police cars on 466 where every where.They parked on the medium behind bushes and pulled over lots of cars.They know they have a cash cow.

I use county roads outside The Villages frequently and I see as many county police out there as in The Villages.

Do you honestly believe the police are ticketing people simply to make money for the county? Do you think this a viable method of filling the county coffers? Do you not believe public safety may be their motive? Lastly, do you think we would all be better off if the police stopped enforcing traffic laws?

I can't help but be a little curious about your driving record as well as your driving habits. Please note, that is not a question.

[EdV]

Originally Posted by kirk1

The Multi Modal Paths do not meet the requirement for being classified as a "road" therefore traffic laws do not apply. This according to an attorney for Sumter County. Therefore there is no enforcement to grant.

I think you misunderstood him.

Florida Statute 16.003 (53) defines a STREET OR HIGHWAY as:

53(a) The entire width between the boundary lines of every way or place of whatever nature when any part thereof is open to the use of the public for purposes of vehicular traffic;

Based on this definition, the MM cart paths in TV would not normally qualify as a public street because although they are intended for vehicular traffic, they are maintained by the residents of TV through their amenity fees and are not intended for use by the general public.

However 53(b) provides an exception:

53(b) The entire width between the boundary lines of any privately owned way or place used for vehicular travel by the owner and those having express or implied permission from the owner, but not by other persons, or any limited access road owned or controlled by a special district, whenever, by written agreement entered into under s. 316.006(2)(b) or (3)(b), a county or municipality exercises traffic control jurisdiction over said way or place;

So any private area that is used for vehicular traffic like TVs MM paths can be turned over to the county or municipality for traffic control juristriction if the owner(s) want to.

Oh and by the way, all of the shopping parking lots in and around TV meet the definition of 53(a) so no Orlando rolls through all those stops signs there.

[duffysmom]

Originally Posted by paulandjean

Yes,radar to pull over golf carts for speeding.Money is the reason. Do you really ever see county police outside of the villages. Turn from 466 to 301 and the police are gone,its like they never leave the villages.We left at 2am to go back up north and the police cars on 466 where every where.They parked on the medium behind bushes and pulled over lots of cars.They know they have a cash cow.

I'm always suspicious of people who are anti police. When I'm driving and get a speeding ticket and I'm exceeding the posted speed limit why would I cry abuse and blame the officer. I take full responsiblility for my actions without whining that I'm being abused. As far as the police hiding behind bushes in the early morning, I thank God that they are there and hope that they lock up the idiots driving impaired or speeding and putting my family at risk. If they weren't breaking the law they wouldn't be pulled over.

[Gearhead]

[downeaster]

Originally Posted by duffysmom

I'm always suspicious of people who are anti police. When I'm driving and get a speeding ticket and I'm exceeding the posted speed limit why would I cry abuse and blame the officer. I take full responsiblility for my actions without whining that I'm being abused. As far as the police hiding behind bushes in the early morning, I thank God that they are there and hope that they lock up the idiots driving impaired or speeding and putting my family at risk. If they weren't breaking the law they wouldn't be pulled over.

Very well said.

BTW, I think bars close at 2:00 AM (early morning) and turn all of those drinkers out and onto the roads. What better time for law enforcement to be on the lookout for offenders?

[handyman]

Originally Posted by JoeC1947

Twice the speed limit? Check for green cards? Wow.......Seems like maybe you had a run in with the local police for you to feel this way.

I lock my cruise control on to the the legal speed limit and everyone passes me but I DON'T CARE! It's kind of fun catching up to them at the next circle or traffic light!

Obey the law and there's no problem, right?

If you don't see the contractor trucks speeding and driving recklessly,then either you don't live along St.Charles as I do ,and yes I do mean 40 in a 20 zone,and no I have not had any problems with local law enforcement,they follow orders

[buggyone]

It just is not that hard to understand about multi-modal trails. You cannot have an open alcohol container in your cart or the police will ticket you.

[paulandjean]

I must be anti-police for my comments about golf carts not cars and the use of radar.Just think time better spent on cars.The most used word in the villages must be "Lawbreaker". Doing a couple mile over in a golf cart to me is no big deal. I never said county police do not patrol outside of villages ,just they prefer in the villages more, the easy patroling.Yes I have a great driving record. Yes I worked with and around police thru my job.

[foxmeadow]

Originally Posted by handyman

If you don't see the contractor trucks speeding and driving recklessly,then either you don't live along St.Charles as I do ,and yes I do mean 40 in a 20 zone,and no I have not had any problems with local law enforcement,they follow orders

Just curious. Where is the 20mph zone on St Charles?

[skip0358]

Under the new Sumter Cnty law unless otherwise posted the speed limit in TV is 20MPH.

[PaPaLarry]

Originally Posted by EdVinMass

I don’t know for sure but since St. Charles Blvd. has a golf cart diamond lane, they could be pulling carts over for going well over the 20mph limit. If that’s the case, those folks will be in for an expensive citation of > $300.

I pay well over $400 for my street legal cart (with appoved safety equipment) to be able to run at up to 25mph, so when I’m passed by regular carts that pay $75 per year for insurance, it annoys me.

And I know that the police are not after people in carts accidently going a little over 20mph.

I'm sure you are annoyed Ed by the carts passing you in cart path, but did you ever think about people who are annoyed by Street Legal Carts on road? I myself, (too each its own) rather not see any Street Legal Carts on road. Why would I want to have to challenge a car, or get hit by one, when the car is so much bigger? I just feel that golf cart paths are made for carts, and roads are made for cars!!!! But its a free country, and your entitled to your Street Legal cart. I just feel it doesn't make sense to ride in road with the speed of cars. Have a nice day!!

[PaPaLarry]

Originally Posted by duffysmom

I'm always suspicious of people who are anti police. When I'm driving and get a speeding ticket and I'm exceeding the posted speed limit why would I cry abuse and blame the officer. I take full responsiblility for my actions without whining that I'm being abused. As far as the police hiding behind bushes in the early morning, I thank God that they are there and hope that they lock up the idiots driving impaired or speeding and putting my family at risk. If they weren't breaking the law they wouldn't be pulled over.

I agree whole heartely!!!

[PaPaLarry]

Originally Posted by Gearhead

LOL Thats funny!!!!!

[rhredd1654]

Originally Posted by PaPaLarry

I'm sure you are annoyed Ed by the carts passing you in cart path, but did you ever think about people who are annoyed by Street Legal Carts on road? I myself, (too each its own) rather not see any Street Legal Carts on road. Why would I want to have to challenge a car, or get hit by one, when the car is so much bigger? I just feel that golf cart paths are made for carts, and roads are made for cars!!!! But its a free country, and your entitled to your Street Legal cart. I just feel it doesn't make sense to ride in road with the speed of cars. Have a nice day!!

One of the reasons I located in The Villages is that it was being promoted by the Developer as a "golf cart community". However, it is not a "true" GC community. A few weeks ago I was driving my street legal GEM on St. Charles when a car tailgated me and laid on the horn because I was only doing 25mph, which is the legal Florida limit. This irate driver proceeded to pass me IN THE CART LANE! Talk about idiots! That prompted me to purchase a "street legal" plate. That still didn't help as a young contractor on his cell phone tailgated me yesterday and shouted something out the window. Folks, the cost for my insurance and registration approaches that of a car. I have a legal right to be on the road, so get over it! If you're in that big of a hurry, move out of this retirement community. There, I've said it!