[NavyNJ]

I dug this info out of a couple of different sources and combined it into the following list, should anyone have interest in communicating over the weekend with their District's PWAC Rep. I suppose the same info could be gathered for Dist. 1-4. This should be a very interesting meeting on Monday - wish I could be down at the Savannah Center instead of NJ!!

Peter Moeller - Chairman (District 6) peter.moeller@districtgov.org, 352-751-4117
Ron Ruggeri - Vice Chairman (District 7) ron.ruggieri@districtgov.org, 352-751-2562
Chuck Wildzunas - Committee Member (District 5) chuck.wildzunas@districtgov.org , 352-753-3703
Dennis Hayes - Committee Member (District 8) dennis.hayes@districtgov.org, 352-633-0750
Steve Printz - Committee Member (District 9) steve.printz@districtgov.org, 641-780-6388
Don Wiley - Committee Member (District 10) donald.wiley@districtgov.org, 813-476-5177

District Board Email: DistXBoard@districtgov.org (X = District Number 1-10)

[cologal]

I'm of the yes votes in the poll..... The cart paths and lanes are dangerous. I had a cart rollover during an accident when a cart turned right in front of me.
So I spent several hundred dollars to "light up" my cart hoping to make myself more visible. I later added LED lights wrapped around the roof and more lights front and rear. After all that I was cut off again by someone trying to make a tee time at Lopez....She only reacted to my presence when she heard the tire squeal.

Anything to make the paths easier to see is good by me!!!

[goodtimesintv]

Originally Posted by blueash

Anyone who claims that visibility is good on the paths is simply not being honest. This is 2 cents a day per household.

I agree completely except I think opponents to marking the path margins are "unknowing" of the dangers at curves/turns because they are apparently in bed before dark.

The danger is clear to anyone with good vision who actually drives the cart paths after dark.

[NavyNJ]

Originally Posted by cologal

I'm of the yes votes in the poll..... The cart paths and lanes are dangerous. I had a cart rollover during an accident when a cart turned right in front of me.
So I spent several hundred dollars to "light up" my cart hoping to make myself more visible. I later added LED lights wrapped around the roof and more lights front and rear. After all that I was cut off again by someone trying to make a tee time at Lopez....She only reacted to my presence when she heard the tire squeal.

Anything to make the paths easier to see is good by me!!!

Based on your descriptions of those two events.......NEITHER would have been averted or avoided with striping - of any kind - center or side. The 100's of dollars you spent on lighting up your cart would only be added to by the 1,000's of dollars of striping - with the same result!

[rustyp]

interesting - perhaps the silent majority is trying to speak. Don't be afraid of bullies.

[NavyNJ]

Originally Posted by goodtimesintv

I agree completely except I think opponents to marking the path margins are "unknowing" of the dangers at curves/turns because they are apparently in bed before dark.

The danger is clear to anyone with good vision who actually drives the cart paths after dark.

Well, then why haven't the PWAC and ACC and other's involved in this fiasco come forward with a limited, specific proposal to line or mark just those specific areas of concern (curves/turns), instead of the entire 84 mi. (42 mi x 2 sides) of paths?? I've been on the paths during day/night, rain/sun/fog, and have never had a situation that "moderating speed" did not alleviate - period. Stripes, in any location, would not have helped had I pressed on at max. speed! Plus, add to that the totally negative (and I dare anyone to try and make the case otherwise!) aesthetic effect of adding more striping to the existing main roadway environment, and stripes are simply incongruous to what The Villages imagery is all about.

In fact, I'd be willing to bet (maybe a beer or two!) that should someone endeavor to develop and take a survey using only these two topics, they'd find that:

a) Those who are in favor of any kind of continuous/complete striping of all TV Multi-Modal Paths and most likely to also be b) in favor and proponents of all manor of lawn ornaments/garden gnomes!!

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by dbussone

.... the URL that follows will allow you to click on your district and the email addresses of all your district supervisors. VCDD Your Community District Why not let all your supervisors know how you feel?

Thanks for the info - emails sent.

[dbussone]

I'm not in favor of the striping expenditure- no one including the engineers has come up with any data suggesting any improvement in safety on the paths. Some of us can't get to the various meetings where these issues are discussed, so the fact that I did not attend one does not negate my right to speak out on the issue. And for those who say "it's only 2 cents a day", 2 cents here and 2 cents there will add up sooner rather than later. I Ieft Taxachusetts years ago to get away from the tax and spend profligates.

[Chi-Town]

Once again I must comment on how nice the reflectors south of 466 are. They light up brightly at night and thump loudly (so I've been told) when you run over them. And they are placed where you need them. If that's all we get I can't complain.

[newguyintv]

Originally Posted by billethkid

inn this mornings dot com news survey 60% of residents choose let the paths alone.
The chairman of the PAW said he is keeping his options open.
The representative of CDD 5 is in favor of moving forward despite the voices of residents.

I guess we will soon find out if those who are supposed to represent the residents.......in fact do so ..."or not.

I dislike whenever a representative exhibits behavior that infers they know better than the majority they represent.

I strongly suggest residents start writing their representative and let their feelings be known.

Let us not have a politically influenced decision spend our funds.

The "Voice of the Residents"? or just the voice of a small vocal minority who have little else to do but believe this cost will them bankrupt them. The cart paths would be safer with striping, sides and middle so stop worrying about a few bucks that the politicians will manage to **** away on something else anyway.

[golfing eagles]

"I do not see this as a political question. The question is "Do the multi-modal paths need to have edge striping?"

Do they? I don't know. But who gets to decide if not the will of the majority of the people?
Those elected to "represent" them?
This is the age old dilemma of a representative democracy.

[blueash]

Perhaps I needed to be clearer when I wrote about curves on the paths. Almost none of the paths have significant straight aways. There are what seem to be decorative arcs and of course the islands around which we divert. So it not just the 90 degree curves for tunnels or street crossings. Additionally this week the landscape company which was applying straw to the beddings along the path was unable to complete the work in a single day. So bundles of straw were left intruding into the paths. Very difficult to see at night, but an interruption in the stripe would be visible.

[outlaw]

I thought it was interesting that the online paper's article on this issue shows a picture of a cart traveling down the path, and the cart was either on or over the center of the two-way path. Strong argument for a center line.

[The Chipster]

I have read that there are 110,000 people here in the Villages. Thus a $330,000 capital improvement project which would be a great safety improvement for all of us would only cost about $3.30 per person. I can't understand why so many people are so upset about this. Seems like a no brainier.

[Mleeja]

Originally Posted by NavyNJ

Well, then why haven't the PWAC and ACC and other's involved in this fiasco come forward with a limited, specific proposal to line or mark just those specific areas of concern (curves/turns), instead of the entire 84 mi. (42 mi x 2 sides) of paths?? I've been on the paths during day/night, rain/sun/fog, and have never had a situation that "moderating speed" did not alleviate - period. Stripes, in any location, would not have helped had I pressed on at max. speed! Plus, add to that the totally negative (and I dare anyone to try and make the case otherwise!) aesthetic effect of adding more striping to the existing main roadway environment, and stripes are simply incongruous to what The Villages imagery is all about.

In fact, I'd be willing to bet (maybe a beer or two!) that should someone endeavor to develop and take a survey using only these two topics, they'd find that:

a) Those who are in favor of any kind of continuous/complete striping of all TV Multi-Modal Paths and most likely to also be b) in favor and proponents of all manor of lawn ornaments/garden gnomes!!

I'll take a " Blue Moon" because you are wrong. I support making the paths safer. You can keep the lawn art...