[bagboy]

There is no credible evidence that striping whether it be center or side, will improve safety on the MMPs. This is from transportation and safety experts and engineers who are educated in, and spend each and every day reviewing and analyzing transportation information with respect to safety.

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by bagboy

There is no credible evidence that striping whether it be center or side, will improve safety on the MMPs. This is from transportation and safety experts and engineers who are educated in, and spend each and every day reviewing and analyzing transportation information with respect to safety.

There's a good reason for that...a meaningful amount of data that is comparable to MMPs in TV does not exist.

And as far as "This is from transportation and safety experts and engineers who are educated in, and spend each and every day reviewing and analyzing transportation information with respect to safety"...I was one of those guys for 30+ years.

And believe me...the vast majority of those guys would agree on the general principle that improved visibility leads to improved safety.

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

"I do not see this as a political question. The question is "Do the multi-modal paths need to have edge striping?"



Do they? I don't know. But who gets to decide if not the will of the majority of the people?

Those elected to "represent" them?

This is the age old dilemma of a representative democracy.

I don't see it as a dilemma. I vote in as many elections as allowed. I see this as a similar situation. As many of us as possible should make our opinions known to our reps. They should vote based on the expressions of their constituents. If we don't like the way they vote, we have our say in their next election.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by blueash

I buy insurance for lots of things. It is unlikely my house will burn down or my car be in an accident. But I pay over a thousand a year to protect those items, just in case. I believe that it is difficult to see the margins of the paths in the dark, especially in the rain or when an oncoming car or cart causes my pupils to constrict thus reducing my night vision. There is no question that having a bright marker on the margins of the path will enhance my ability to determine the curves of the path. Will it actually reduce accidents? No data because only a place like TV could produce such data. Is it worth $7 a year for a margin of safety, I think so. Anyone who claims that visibility is good on the paths is simply not being honest. This is 2 cents a day per household.

A voice of reason.

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by newguyintv

The "Voice of the Residents"? or just the voice of a small vocal minority who have little else to do but believe this cost will them bankrupt them. The cart paths would be safer with striping, sides and middle so stop worrying about a few bucks that the politicians will manage to **** away on something else anyway.

Really? I'm not worried about becoming bankrupt at the hands of a few. My concern relates to the use of money when there is no data to support it's expenditure. If they can spend a little for no purpose, they, or others, can do the same with a lot of money. Let's see, a great example would be our representatives in D.C. you have no data, proof, or other scientific reason to support your position.

[cologal]

Originally Posted by NavyNJ

Based on your descriptions of those two events.......NEITHER would have been averted or avoided with striping - of any kind - center or side. The 100's of dollars you spent on lighting up your cart would only be added to by the 1,000's of dollars of striping - with the same result!

I would be happy to contribute my household share of $3.30 for the stripping.... I'll even kick in your share.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by The Chipster

I have read that there are 110,000 people here in the Villages. Thus a $330,000 capital improvement project which would be a great safety improvement for all of us would only cost about $3.30 per person. I can't understand why so many people are so upset about this. Seems like a no brainier.

Chipster, you say it would be "a great safety improvement for all of us", but many doubt that is true.
I'm not sure about striping, but I do like the idea of reflectors anywhere the road twists, turns or divides.

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

Chipster, you say it would be "a great safety improvement for all of us", but many doubt that is true.
I'm not sure about striping, but I do like the idea of reflectors anywhere the road twists, turns or divides.

I can agree with that.

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

...I'm not sure about striping, but I do like the idea of reflectors anywhere the road twists, turns or divides.

I could get on board with that.

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by Polar Bear

I could get on board with that.

"So let it be written, so let it be done."

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by dbussone

"So let it be written, so let it be done."

Amen. And if that doesn't work, then talk about taking it further. (Farther?)

[wendyquat]

For Heavens sake, most of us have been driving cars for over 50 years. What is so difficult about keeping a little ole golf cart in the proper lane?

[JoMar]

And when did the TV become a democracy?

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by JoMar

And when did the TV become a democracy?

Whoa! And now the serious questions appear. My response...Personally I prefer benevolent dictatorships.

[billethkid]

The striping will not change how people drive their carts.
Hence the accidents and injuries will continue at the same rate/type/frequency, etc.
And yes the paths will be safer for some for all the reasons stated.......most of which do not contribute to the accident/injury rate.

And be mindful that justifying a couple of bucks per month is no big deal. In a manner of speaking that merely emphasizes supporting increasing amenity fees.....it's only $2 or $6 or $8 per month this time!