[rshoffer]

The entire worlds economy is teetering on collapse.... American cities are going bankrupt, rampant double digit inflation looms right around the corner, if China calls in our debt it's game over....

Anyone looking for certainty of total fiscal safety 10 years from now is deluding themselves.

Enjoy the moment here in The Villages.

I have to go with the above. Sums it up for me.

[Russ_Boston]

Great post RSH!

[Kelsie52]

I dont disagree with about the idea of looking for certainty because it does not exist in any world ...Believe me I know that -- I might not be alive in 10 years or even long enough to finish this post although I hope so and I plan for it --

Thats why I am not looking to buy a million dollar home in the Villages --while I might be able to afford it now (not saying I could ) I know I couldnt sustain it----but to say --I will worry about it when the bank puts the padlock on the door is what has gotten us in the economical mess the country is in now....

As I said in my previous post I dont think this will stop me from purchasing in TV but I wont bury my head in the sand either.

I enjoy almost everthing I do --I hope to enjoy the rest of my time in TV along with all of you... gathering information to make that choice and to sustain my hopes only makes sense...
I see people on here saying "I would never buy a home on a golf course because too many golf carts go by every day or a ball might roll om my property" That is choice they make after an informed decision because they want what they want after working their life to get there... Thats all I am saying ..
Wish I was there now !!! 21 inches of snow here and working three days straight

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by rshoffer

The entire worlds economy is teetering on collapse.... American cities are going bankrupt, rampant double digit inflation looms right around the corner, if China calls in our debt it's game over....

Anyone looking for certainty of total fiscal safety 10 years from now is deluding themselves.

Enjoy the moment here in The Villages.

Well said!
We should not get all wound up because someone comes on here and says a lot of things, mostly just opinion, about what has happened. What was the motive for this post? If the poster is scared they are going to be "done in" by the developer for posting......why post? Sorry, but I just don't buy the whole story.

[Donna2]

Originally Posted by rshoffer

The entire worlds economy is teetering on collapse.... American cities are going bankrupt, rampant double digit inflation looms right around the corner, if China calls in our debt it's game over....

Anyone looking for certainty of total fiscal safety 10 years from now is deluding themselves.

Enjoy the moment here in The Villages.

You have that right. I told my significant other that if it all collapses, I would rather be down there with you guys then up here in the frozen tundra.

[Mallory]

Go back and read the posts from around 5/14/09 on this Texas issue (search Texas). It was covered pretty completely then.

My thoughts on this current flap are that the post was bumped by a Villages sales agent who probably did not succeed. Sour grapes.

[dillywho]

Originally Posted by Kelsie52

I dont disagree with about the idea of looking for certainty because it does not exist in any world ...Believe me I know that -- I might not be alive in 10 years or even long enough to finish this post although I hope so and I plan for it --

Thats why I am not looking to buy a million dollar home in the Villages --while I might be able to afford it now (not saying I could ) I know I couldnt sustain it----but to say --I will worry about it when the bank puts the padlock on the door is what has gotten us in the economical mess the country is in now....

As I said in my previous post I dont think this will stop me from purchasing in TV but I wont bury my head in the sand either.

I enjoy almost everthing I do --I hope to enjoy the rest of my time in TV along with all of you... gathering information to make that choice and to sustain my hopes only makes sense...
I see people on here saying "I would never buy a home on a golf course because too many golf carts go by every day or a ball might roll om my property" That is choice they make after an informed decision because they want what they want after working their life to get there... Thats all I am saying ..
Wish I was there now !!! 21 inches of snow here and working three days straight

I would venture to say that the majority of us here do not have million dollar homes...far from it. IMHO

[djl8412]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Is this being shared out the goodness of your heart.....or it there another motive?

Just what I would expect. A person with working knowlege interjects inside information on this controversial issue and the first club out of the bag is a suggestion that the informant has an ulterior motive i.e. disgruntled employee, whiner, etc. Many have been undertaking this attitude with Lauren Richie since she first brought this subject to light and labeled others who have concerns in the same way. As I too am concerned (not to be misinterpreted as "panicked"). There isn't anyone who has convinced me that The CDD is guaranteed immunity when the dust finally settles nor has anyone convinced me they will take a huge fall. Despite all the statue-quoting posters, if the CDD takes a big hit financially, don't for a minute think that they will not try to recoup some of it from us in some way. Sharp attorneys know how to circumvent statues just as states adjust fees to increase revenue.
We, too, love life in The Villages but it didn't take long to see that it is run on a "good ole boy" system and that the late Mr. Schwartz has turned over in his grave over and over. The Morse family is deeply connected with state and national politicians controls all The Villages media which is why you don't see ANY potentially negative news in the Daily Sun or hear it on WVLG. District commissions are hand-picked and residents are hand fed information. Don't fool yourself by thinking that the Morse family doesn't hold influence over Janet Tutt and the rest of the CDD. If your only argument is labeling columnists "whiners" and others paranoid, you really need to move on and get into politics. I dare say that some who boast about the democracy we have don't appreciate others who partake in it by keeping us informed.

It is an interesting question to consider what would be the estimated impact when the developer pulls out of The Villages. What would the residents have to cover or would no longer be available. Who could charge the residents for certain usages, etc. which are now covered by amenity fees, etc. Would the The Villages have to be chartered, or whatever a city must do and therefore contract for an in house police force, etc.etc.
Since the infrastructre is currently being controlled and managed by the developer what would be the costs for the residents to handle the infrastructure and what would be the additional costs and the mechanics to
handle the responsibility?
Hopefully this note does not stimulate a number of hostile responses but rather constructinve and thoughtful considerations and best guesses. It is an interesting question.

[Kelsie52]

I agree DJ and REH --these are only questions for thought and a good debate --its just that some here seem to --not want anything negative said about the Villages ... ----Questions are not negative --

I appreciate the information I get here both ways --it helps me with my decision ---

I the powers that be --wont answer the questions it only leads to speculation that they dont want people to know the true answers --

They can label me anythig they want as long as its RETIRED ____! lol

enjoy a great day in the Villages --soon to be ..for me

[BobKat1]

We've looked at other retirement communities (granted smaller than TV) and wondered the same things about what happens after build out. IMO resonable questions to ponder.

Some of the large Sun City communitites in AZ seem to have done well after build out. I don't really know what provisions were in place before it happened. Perhaps there are some in place in TV?

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by djl8412

Just what I would expect. A person with working knowlege interjects inside information on this controversial issue and the first club out of the bag is a suggestion that the informant has an ulterior motive i.e. disgruntled employee, whiner, etc. Many have been undertaking this attitude with Lauren Richie since she first brought this subject to light and labeled others who have concerns in the same way. As I too am concerned (not to be misinterpreted as "panicked"). There isn't anyone who has convinced me that The CDD is guaranteed immunity when the dust finally settles nor has anyone convinced me they will take a huge fall. Despite all the statue-quoting posters, if the CDD takes a big hit financially, don't for a minute think that they will not try to recoup some of it from us in some way. Sharp attorneys know how to circumvent statues just as states adjust fees to increase revenue.
We, too, love life in The Villages but it didn't take long to see that it is run on a "good ole boy" system and that the late Mr. Schwartz has turned over in his grave over and over. The Morse family is deeply connected with state and national politicians controls all The Villages media which is why you don't see ANY potentially negative news in the Daily Sun or hear it on WVLG. District commissions are hand-picked and residents are hand fed information. Don't fool yourself by thinking that the Morse family doesn't hold influence over Janet Tutt and the rest of the CDD. If your only argument is labeling columnists "whiners" and others paranoid, you really need to move on and get into politics. I dare say that some who boast about the democracy we have don't appreciate others who partake in it by keeping us informed.

No new information here.

[2 Oldcrabs]

Bump

[Golf-Tinker]

Topic has been stoned to death - J hope.