[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

That attitude will end up disrupting the going back to normal that is on the verge of happening in a few months with the improved vaccine distribution actions that are planned. Most people want "normal" not lockdowns with no music in the squares, the swimming pools closed, and no more golfing for eagles. PEOPLE - we are on the verge of making "normal" happen, don't screwdriver it up!

Let's be real about this. I can count on one hand the amount of people I have seen wear a mask at our OUTDOOR mail centers in the last month.

[Steve Mosher]

Government property is in fact public property and freely open to the public. Government property can identify physical areas within its property as restricted. (Like inside the postal building that contains access to the mail slots). The open access area is subject to law and not to policy. So, if the president changes the "law", we become subject to that law.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

I will most certainly wear a mask in all indoor spaces and outdoor spaces when social distancing is not feasible. I will not wear a mask OUTDOORS when picking up my mail when it takes me seconds to get my mail and get back into my car. If anyone looks like they are coming near me, I move away. It really is a simple to avoid people at the mail center.

I CAN live with that compromise.

[Joe V.]

Originally Posted by Steve Mosher

Government property is in fact public property and freely open to the public. Government property can identify physical areas within its property as restricted. (Like inside the postal building that contains access to the mail slots). The open access area is subject to law and not to policy. So, if the president changes the "law", we become subject to that law.

President's do not change laws. They sign or veto them as passed by Congress.

[Byte1]

I have NEVER worn a mask to pick up my mail. I simply maintain my distance, waiting my turn if anyone is near my mailbox. I have no intention of wearing a mask because someone "thinks" that the president mandated it, illegally I might add. The executive branch does not make law, they enforce existing laws. If a store mandates mask wearing, then that is fine. If a bank says NO masks, that is fine with me also. I do not have to go inside if I do not feel safe, or I can wait until I can distance myself. Apparently, common sense has been overwhelmed by mass hysteria here.
If you live in fear, there is absolutely no one that will deny your right to wear a mask. Like I have said many times before, your safety is up to you, not anyone else.

[Mleeja]

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[EdFNJ]

Originally Posted by Joe V.

President's do not change laws. They sign or veto them as passed by Congress.

Well, "executives" past and current ALL seem to have no problem changing and making laws (ie. executive orders) and if those laws were unconstitutional one would think someone would have challenged them. Even governors do that.

https://www.phe.gov/s3/law/Pages/ExecOrders.aspx

Executive Orders state mandatory requirements for the Executive Branch, and have the effect of law. ... They are issued in relation to a law passed by Congress or based on powers granted to the President in the Constitution and must be consistent with those authorities.

[Joe V.]

Originally Posted by EdFNJ

Well, "executives" past and current ALL seem to have no problem changing and making laws (ie. executive orders) and if those laws were unconstitutional one would think someone would have challenged them. Even governors do that.

https://www.phe.gov/s3/law/Pages/ExecOrders.aspx

Executive Orders state mandatory requirements for the Executive Branch, and have the effect of law. ... They are issued in relation to a law passed by Congress or based on powers granted to the President in the Constitution and must be consistent with those authorities.

An executive order, no matter how much you love it, is still not a law. Simple concept.

[kenoc7]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Aren't you glad you have the choice to WEAR your mask anytime you wish? Is this a great country or what?

It shouldn't be a choice indoors. And it would be a much better country if there was more of a sense of the common good.

[kenoc7]

Originally Posted by Byte1

What difference does it make? He had his photo taken inside a "federal government" building without his mask on right after he signed the unconstitutional order, so why would you care? I don't and won't let it make a difference to me.
As for whether or not you SHOULD wear a mask when getting your mail, if you are outside and distanced from anyone else, use your common sense.

Not unconstitutional and he has been a superb role model for mask-wearing!! Have you b been on another planet for the last year?

[EdFNJ]

Originally Posted by kenoc7

Not unconstitutional and he has been a superb role model for mask-wearing!! Have you b been on another planet for the last year?

He's likely been on this planet but watching the wrong channel.

[EdFNJ]

Originally Posted by Joe V.

An executive order, no matter how much you love it, is still not a law. Simple concept.

Hmm, for the past 4 years it sure seemed so but I guess something might have recently changed.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by kenoc7

It shouldn't be a choice indoors. And it would be a much better country if there was more of a sense of the common good.

I wholeheartedly agree that there should be no choice when it comes to wearing masks indoors. INDOORS is when it is most important, especially when social distancing is not guaranteed. Our discussion has been about wearing masks OUTDOORS at the mail centers.

[stanley]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

I won't be going back any time soon because people don't seem to understand the concept of social distancing.

Your choice............

[stanley]

Originally Posted by Steve Mosher

So, if the president changes the "law", we become subject to that law.

' News flash...............the President cannot make or change law.
Government 101