[Rainger99]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

You can look it up, it's public record.

This is from the bankruptcy filing. Go to page 14 for a list of all of the shareholders of TVH. There are quite a few but the major shareholder is Villages Health Holding Company with more than 100,000 shares.

https://cases.stretto.com/public/x45...0000000195.pdf

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by Aces4

The 60% ownership is the family, the three Morse siblings and their family business. I'd like to see the details of the other 40% ownership.

Originally Posted by Rainger99

This is from the bankruptcy filing. Go to page 14 for a list of all of the shareholders of TVH. There are quite a few but the major shareholder is Villages Health Holding Company with more than 100,000 shares.

https://cases.stretto.com/public/x45...0000000195.pdf

The Morse family (Jennifer Parr, Mark Morse & Tracy Morse Dadeo) as of 12/31/23 owned 100% of Villages Health Holding Co., LLC.

Here's documentation: https://www.atlantafed.org/-/media/d...12315_2023.pdf

(BTW, the Corporate Officers filing of TVH was amended 2 months ago, with the Florida Secy of State, per: Detail by Entity Name)

Minority ownership of TVH may be a little harder to discern. On paper, I believe EJ Sussman owns the largest chunk of stock not held by Villages Health Holding, LLC. Who provided the funding for EJ Sussman, is probably an interesting question.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

The Morse family (Jennifer Parr, Mark Morse & Tracy Morse Dadeo) as of 12/31/23 owned 100% of Villages Health Holding Co., LLC.

Here's documentation: https://www.atlantafed.org/-/media/d...12315_2023.pdf

(BTW, the Corporate Officers filing of TVH was amended 2 months ago, with the Florida Secy of State, per: Detail by Entity Name)

Minority ownership of TVH may be a little harder to discern. On paper, I believe EJ Sussman owns the largest chunk of stock not held by Villages Health Holding, LLC. Who provided the funding for EJ Sussman, is probably an interesting question.

All the minority shareholders are listed right in the bankruptcy filing, I believe a link was posted above.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

All the minority shareholders are listed right in the bankruptcy filing, I believe a link was posted above.

For whatever difference it makes, it seems like Sussman was the front man when TVH was set up and I suspect the financing for his investment in TVH, came from the Morse family.

The Morse family usually holds things pretty close to the vest and don't seem to do a lot of business with partners, unless there's a good reason ... like they didn't know much about the health business, when they started TVH.

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

"The Morse Family" doesn't own TVH. Jennifer Parr, a singular, individual Morse family member, is listed as a principal of TVH. Jennifer Parr does not make up the entirety of The Morse Family.

Imagine your third cousin filing
for bankruptcy. Would the
court look at YOUR assets, just
because you're a blood
relative? No, it wouldn't.

In a court document,
Jennifer Parr was required to
give accounting of monies
dispersed to her and family
members. Money is an asset.
It is the only asset the court
ordered Parr to account for. It is presently in the hands of family members.This
particular paragraph did not
mention the name of their
joint owned business. Therefore, I posted
my remark as Morse Family.
Stating the business name
when it was not mentioned in
this part of the court
document would be drawing conclusions. As other posters stated, it will be interesting to see the date this money was dispersed.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

In a court document,
Jennifer Parr was required to
give accounting of monies
dispersed to her and family
members. Money is an asset.
It is the only asset the court
ordered Parr to account for. It is presently in the hands of family members.This
particular paragraph did not
mention the name of their
joint owned business. Therefore, I posted
my remark as Morse Family.
Stating the business name
when it was not mentioned in
this part of the court
document would be drawing conclusions. As other posters stated, it will be interesting to see the date this money was dispersed.

Could you please post a link to that court document?

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Could you please post a link to that court document?

It was uploaded by another poster on this thread pages back.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

It was uploaded by another poster on this thread pages back.

And it states the court ordered Jennifer Parr to give an accounting of funds dispersed to "her family"?

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

And it states the court ordered Jennifer Parr to give an accounting of funds dispersed to "her family"?

Her family would include her brother and sisters.. it does for everyone else out there.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Aces4

Her family would include her brother and sisters.. it does for everyone else out there.

Not the question.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Not the question.

I disagree but then we've been in this boat before, haven't we?:1rotfl :

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Aces4

I disagree but then we've been in this boat before, haven't we?:1rotfl :

I thought the question was whether or not a court ordered Jennifer Parr to disclose any distributions from TVH through The Villages Holding Co. to her family, not whether brothers and sisters constitute family.

PS: using little rolling laughing men is a skill

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I thought the question was whether or not a court ordered Jennifer Parr to disclose any distributions from TVH through The Villages Holding Co. to her family, not whether brothers and sisters constitute family.

PS: using little rolling laughing men is a skill

PPSS: using little rolling laughing men with an alphabet pause to hold the number to lucky seven takes even more skill. Anyway.. I think you are parsing the request a little too much. We all know the court wants to know how much has been distributed to her family.. the richest ones. What if she were unmarried and childless? I consider my spouse, children and siblings my family. Are we to consider after marriage that our brothers and sisters aren't our family? Nah!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Aces4

The 60% ownership is the family, the three Morse siblings and their family business. I'd like to see the details of the other 40% ownership.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

You can look it up, it's public record.

Not sure what part of that you didn't understand.

If you want to see the details of the other 40% ownership, you can look it up. It's public record.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

In a court document, Jennifer Parr was required to give accounting of monies dispersed to her and family members. Money is an asset. It is the only asset the court ordered Parr to account for. It is presently in the hands of family members.This
particular paragraph did not mention the name of their joint owned business. Therefore, I posted my remark as Morse Family. Stating the business name when it was not mentioned in this part of the court document would be drawing conclusions. As other posters stated, it will be interesting to see the date this money was dispersed.

You are assuming that the ONLY people with ANY ownership of the holding company are the entirety of the Morse family. And that is not true. First of all, many members of the family have no ownership in it at all. Second, some non-Morse people have shares of ownership in it.

The holding company is owned PRIMARILY by Morse family members. Not exclusively, and not collectively. A third cousin (Yes I like using that hypothetical) who doesn't talk to his family members, doesn't live in Florida, has his own life that has nothing to do with the Morse family or The Villages, should not have his assets checked, just because he's a blood relative of the Morse family.