[kathy1516]

Do you retirees think it’s time to enjoy your life and be realistic enough to accept the inevitable ending for all of us? Stop the hoarding already! You caused normal folks a lot of problems when you hoarded toilet paper last year and other paper products. There are settlements for survivalists. Why not go there with like minded folks?

[Blueblaze]

Before we all panic over "cases", could I just suggest a simple exercise that might help calm you down?

Examine this data, directly from the CDC:
Provisional COVID-19 Death Counts by Week Ending Date and State | Data | Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

If you sort and study that intentionally confusing document, you will discover that for the most recent week for which there is data, 7/25/21 - 7/31/21, 362 people died of Covid-19 in the state of Florida, and 2,467 people died of all causes. According to the Census Bureau, there are 21,477,737 people in Florida.

So your likelihood of dying from COVID this week is: 362 / 21,477,737 = 0.0017%
And your likelihood of dying from anything else this week is: (2467 - 362) / 21,477,737 = .0098%

1.69 people out of 100,000 will die this week of the bad cold virus from China, while 9.8 Floridians will die from something else -- most likely a HEART ATTACK, since that is by far the most likely cause of death.

I just hope all this government-sponsored panic-porn over "cases" doesn't cause one of my neighbors to drop dead in a panic from a heart heart attack, while stuffing his freezer full of hoarded meat!

Because even THAT scenario is far more likely than your odds of dying from COVID!

Besides, if you're sensible worry-wart like me, there is already a year's worth of freeze-dried survival food under your bed!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by MDLNB

If you have plenty of ammo, you don't need to hoard anything else.

And a SEVERE threatening mentality IS the reason that we are on this BRINK where even a slim possibility of an apocalypse exists. Enough threatening mentalities could lead to a Military State or anarchy. And remember that even in the old US Western era of near-anarchy - that REAL gunfights were NOT frequent. Society is UNLIKELY to tear apart THAT bad!

[Buckeye Bleau]

Originally Posted by Malsua

Anyone who has carried an army issued p38 on their key-chain since the early 80s

Since the early 1970’s!

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Obviously nothing was learned from last year.

I agree, and if one is going to hoard, then go ahead and do so, but no need to advertise that, it only triggers paranoia in others.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by jrref

I don't think we will see any kind of shutdown again after last time. Now we know how the virus is transmitted, we know how to treat it better And we have an effective vaccine and lot's of people are vaccinated. There may be some shortages from states where the vaccine rate is low but nothing more than that. Last week the news was reporting vaccination rates were up sharply, but maybe not in Florida. At the end of the day this virus will demonstrate the survival of the fittest not only health wise but who gets vaccinated and who does not.

I can't agree with the "lots of vaccinated people". In the US it is 50% FULLY vaccinated people. The good part is that because of FEAR people are waking up and getting vaccinated. The BAD part is that many southern US states are about 30%. The REALLY BAD part is that we needed to be at 85% like Connecticut and some European countries - and we needed it that high by about May in order for the US to have repelled the Delta variant. Children's DEATHS are spiking upwards and some hospitals are FULL of CV patients. Unless you can rewind the clock to April and hypnotize the unvaccinated into accepting REALITY, we are at a REALLY BAD time with respect to CV. And hoarding will make everything worse!

[Paper1]

Originally Posted by MDLNB

It's called Prepping. There is absolutely no problem with someone being prepared. Even the leaders go on TV every hurricane season and tell folks to prep. Sorry, but if it comes to a choice between feeding family or feeding those that did not prep, common sense says most folks will feed their families. If you start prepping ahead of time, the economy will not even notice products missing off the shelves and will remain stocked.

It's not survival of the fittest, it's survival of the smartest. Don't rely on others to pity you and share their rations when you do not think ahead. Communism only works on the conquered and enslaved. If you think that the community is going to force rationing of privately owned supplies, better get "prepped" for a fight.

That said, I do not believe the panic over an extended pandemic. Hospitals are filling up because many folks that put off surgery last year are now opting to get worked on now. Yes, infections may be up but deaths are not significantly increasing YET. A week long surge does not mean a trend. Panic at your own peril.

The next event we need to be prepping for is collapse of our dollar, it's coming.

[SugarOnMyTongue]

If nothing else, at the current rate of inflation, you just made some good investments :-) ....the "best hamburger under $6" at five guys which is now somewhere between $9-11, might be $15 come xmas.....hope not, but stuff is getting stupid expensive and im not really sure why....supply chain, greed, labor...who knows?

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by SugarOnMyTongue

If nothing else, at the current rate of inflation, you just made some good investments :-) ....the "best hamburger under $6" at five guys which is now somewhere between $9-11, might be $15 come xmas.....hope not, but stuff is getting stupid expensive and im not really sure why....supply chain, greed, labor...who knows?

It's called INFLATION and we all know why that is occurring. Nuff said

[biker1]

This stuff is pretty easy to research so I really don't understand how you can get it wrong so often. Connecticut is actually at about 64% (fully vaccinated), not 85%. At least you have stopped saying that we needed to be at 85% in April (and now you are using May). As I already pointed out, this was impossible due to when the vaccine was rolled out by age group. About 18% of the population is under 12 and are not eligible for the vaccination. Please stop spouting nonsensical numbers.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I can't agree with the "lots of vaccinated people". In the US it is 50% FULLY vaccinated people. The good part is that because of FEAR people are waking up and getting vaccinated. The BAD part is that many southern US states are about 30%. The REALLY BAD part is that we needed to be at 85% like Connecticut and some European countries - and we needed it that high by about May in order for the US to have repelled the Delta variant. Children's DEATHS are spiking upwards and some hospitals are FULL of CV patients. Unless you can rewind the clock to April and hypnotize the unvaccinated into accepting REALITY, we are at a REALLY BAD time with respect to CV. And hoarding will make everything worse!

[callalily]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I doubt anyone here cares about what Panama does. But the real question is: are they doing better with COVID than countries that aren't as draconian? After all, Japan has tremendous compliance with masks, yet they almost shut the Olympics down. Canada has become almost isolationist, yet they are doing no better than the US.

Canada has had about one-third the cases and one-third the deaths per capita as the U.S. Japan has had about one-tenth the cases and deaths as the US. It's precisely because they are willing to impose restrictions and cancel things like the Olympics that they have been able to keep the numbers down.

[Pat2015]

Is this a serious post?

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by callalily

Canada has had about one-third the cases and one-third the deaths per capita as the U.S. Japan has had about one-tenth the cases and deaths as the US. It's precisely because they are willing to impose restrictions and cancel things like the Olympics that they have been able to keep the numbers down.

source, please?

[amexsbow]

Having lived through Katrina, my suggestion to everyone is to keep at least a months supply of necessary items for your health and survival. Electricity may be out for weeks at a time depending on your location. It is easy to do and it is not hoarding. When you shop buy an extra item. Do this several times and when you have the amount you need, keep replenishing your survival items as you use them.
It is not rocket science. As all former Boy Scouts know "Be Prepared."

[amexsbow]

Originally Posted by SugarOnMyTongue

If nothing else, at the current rate of inflation, you just made some good investments :-) ....the "best hamburger under $6" at five guys which is now somewhere between $9-11, might be $15 come xmas.....hope not, but stuff is getting stupid expensive and im not really sure why....supply chain, greed, labor...who knows?

Maybe it will change in 2022. Or get worse.

Read " The 100 year Marathon"