[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

TI try NOT to concern myself with small DETAILS because that causes people to miss the big picture.

The Devil is in the details!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

Latest numbers on UK Gov site is:

First dose. 88.9%
Second dose. 74.5%

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/vaccinations

That is what I heard from an English news moderator on TV. And the US had a HUGE head start in vaccine production and availability compared to England. IMO England must have a more cohesive and less chaotic society than here in the US.

[Seamus6]

At a minimum, you should always be prepared for events like hurricanes and other weather issues.

I still live in Maryland. Most of my extensive pantry and stores of food are mostly because I am a foodie and want to have most things that store well on hand constantly: Rice, 12-15 kinds of dried beans, large bags of maybe 4 kinds of flour, a couple pounds of 7-8 kinds of pasta on top of a freezer full of each kind of meat that's before keeping ordinary canned/bottled goods like beer, broth, wine, soup, rum, Tuna, vodka, Spam, other liquor, and water in decent quantities.

But also have whole house (natural gas) generator, several bottles of propane for the grill, 2-3 cords of wood. Only have 3 guns (and two bows) and though I don't have zombie apocalypse levels of ammo, I have enough to supplement our stores and vegetable garden with the 200-300 lbs. of venison that walk through my yard daily.

[Velvet]

Readywise has nice freeze dried food; breakfast or dinner or snacks. They are good for up to 15 or 25 years and are delicious. If you have bottled water you don’t need anything else.

[MDLNB]

Lots of wild life in the Villages. If you have a smoker and use wood or charcoal BBQ is living high on the hog....or gator or big bird, rabbit, coyote or even dog. Lots of dogs in the villages. Just wait for one to do his thing on your lawn and BBQ time. Dog is like pork only less fat.

[TCNY61]

Originally Posted by stanley

You should never let on to "anyone" you are "hoarding". Could mean trouble for you if s..t really hits the fan.

Very true, one of my friends is a police officer. He has had contact with a group of people who prepares for the end. They look for houses that they will take over when things hit the fan. He was telling me this because he said my house would be on their list. Why get everything you need when you can just take someone else's who did all the work!

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

That is what I heard from an English news moderator on TV. And the US had a HUGE head start in vaccine production and availability compared to England. IMO England must have a more cohesive and less chaotic society than here in the US.

The US has 11 states bigger than the Brittan and five times to population. Of course, your next statement will be one comparing us with Australia. My momma always told me to not worry about what the kid down the street was doing.

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by TCNY61

Very true, one of my friends is a police officer. He has had contact with a group of people who prepares for the end. They look for houses that they will take over when things hit the fan. He was telling me this because he said my house would be on their list. Why get everything you need when you can just take someone else's who did all the work!

EXACTLY! If the SHTF, most of them will be having heart attacks anyway and can't take it with them. Like I said before, stock up on ammo.

[Grunt 1946]

Follow the Mormon church guidelines and have one year's worth of food and supplies on hand at all times. Seems to be a smart move.

[Seamus6]

Originally Posted by TCNY61

Very true, one of my friends is a police officer. He has had contact with a group of people who prepares for the end. They look for houses that they will take over when things hit the fan. He was telling me this because he said my house would be on their list. Why get everything you need when you can just take someone else's who did all the work!

I have heard this. I think they will give up on our neighborhood before they get anywhere near my house. Having ONLY three guns, we are way on the low end of average guns per household in my neighborhood!

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

That is what I heard from an English news moderator on TV. And the US had a HUGE head start in vaccine production and availability compared to England. IMO England must have a more cohesive and less chaotic society than here in the US.

Just Socialist medical services!!

[Geodyssey]

Originally Posted by callalily

Canada has had about one-third the cases and one-third the deaths per capita as the U.S. Japan has had about one-tenth the cases and deaths as the US. It's precisely because they are willing to impose restrictions and cancel things like the Olympics that they have been able to keep the numbers down.

I'm pretty sure Japan didn't cancel the Olympics. My neighbor said they saw some of it on television.

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Reality...........hospitals are filling up because CV patients are drowning in their OWN fluids in their OWN lungs. Be glad it's NOT you because you got your vaccination. Hospitals are turning away elective surgeries and losing money on long stays of CV patients. Hospital staff morale is low and nurses and staff are QUITTING. Because of all of that, everyone's insurance WILL INCREASE. That's the REAL......reality!

We heard much the same up in Minnesota during the first go-round. According to our cartoon governor Walz and his bevy of "experts", there were predictions of 75,000 or more Minnesotans dead from COVID, hospitals were going to be overflowing with COVID patients pounding on the doors pleading to be let in, and people were going to be dying in their homes in numbers and situations reminiscent of the Bubonic Plague in Europe. Many hospitals totally stopped doing elective surgeries (though just how "elective" a hip replacement might be when your pain is front-and-center 24 hours a day is debatable), hiring extra staff and bracing for the flood. Governor Walz, with admirable foresight, went so far as to spend 6.9 million of Minnesota taxpayers' dollars to purchase an old warehouse to be converted to an emergency morgue, assumedly the place where the street workers could dump the bodies of those dead of COVID that they were going to be sweeping up.

So...what happened? In the face of the dire predictions, just about nothing. Well, some thing did happen. Walz' $6.9 million dollar charnel house admitted nary a body. Hospitals sat with more empty rooms than full ones waiting for the surge that never came. a full 21 clinics and hospitals in the Twin Cities area alone, including Bethesda and St. Joseph's hospitals, closed their doors permanently. Instead of working overtime, many health care workers sat home drawing unemployment.

Oh...and the actual totals? 7,694 Minnesotans as of August 8. Including both those dying OF COVID and those dying WITH COVID. And even with this current "surge", daily deaths in Minnesota have dropped to almost nothing.

And people wonder why the doom-and-gloomers are met with such scorn.

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

We heard much the same up in Minnesota during the first go-round. According to our cartoon governor Walz and his bevy of "experts", there were predictions of 75,000 or more Minnesotans dead from COVID, hospitals were going to be overflowing with COVID patients pounding on the doors pleading to be let in, and people were going to be dying in their homes in numbers and situations reminiscent of the Bubonic Plague in Europe. Many hospitals totally stopped doing elective surgeries (though just how "elective" a hip replacement might be when your pain is front-and-center 24 hours a day is debatable), hiring extra staff and bracing for the flood. Governor Walz, with admirable foresight, went so far as to spend 6.9 million of Minnesota taxpayers' dollars to purchase an old warehouse to be converted to an emergency morgue, assumedly the place where the street workers could dump the bodies of those dead of COVID that they were going to be sweeping up.

So...what happened? In the face of the dire predictions, just about nothing. Well, some thing did happen. Walz' $6.9 million dollar charnel house admitted nary a body. Hospitals sat with more empty rooms than full ones waiting for the surge that never came. a full 21 clinics and hospitals in the Twin Cities area alone, including Bethesda and St. Joseph's hospitals, closed their doors permanently. Instead of working overtime, many health care workers sat home drawing unemployment.

Oh...and the actual totals? 7,694 Minnesotans as of August 8. Including both those dying OF COVID and those dying WITH COVID. And even with this current "surge", daily deaths in Minnesota have dropped to almost nothing.

And people wonder why the doom-and-gloomers are met with such scorn.

And if the prophecies had come true and no arrangements had been made, the Govenor would have been hung on a lamp post.
20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing.

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