[guitarguy]

Ambassadors work both championship and executive courses.
How are those costs handled and who pays?
Do championship course superintendents handle executive courses as well?
It would be interesting to know how this is handled.

[Papa_lecki]

Am I reading this right? There appears to be 375,000 in trail fees from priority golf. VCCDD FY2020 revenue was $115 million.
SLCDD revenue was $90 million

How much time was spent on an item that is almost a rounding error?

[OhioBuckeye]

Sorry, I see your attachment but where’s it say, Executive Trail Fees will or won’t go up? That’s my question. I’m not saying your not right but where does it say anything about Trail Fees?

[OhioBuckeye]

Bilyclub, you said that’s not what the article said. I just didn’t see the article where it said Executive Trail Fees won’t go up or you explain what it said about trail fees, that’s what you said. I’m not going to make a big deal about this, just trying to see your proof!

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki

Am I reading this right? There appears to be 375,000 in trail fees from priority golf. VCCDD FY2020 revenue was $115 million.
SLCDD revenue was $90 million

How much time was spent on an item that is almost a rounding error?

79 posts so far……

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

79 posts so far……

Will give odds it gets to at least 100.

[rustyp]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

79 posts so far……

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Will give odds it gets to at least 100.

By posting the little guy eating popcorn you can increase your number of posts with little or no effort and at the same time annoyingly keep the thread alive. Of course that doesn't do jack for furthering anyone's education on said subject. Oh look I'm approaching Sage. When does one get to rosemary and thyme ?

[drcar]

Originally Posted by guitarguy

Ambassadors work both championship and executive courses.
How are those costs handled and who pays?
Do championship course superintendents handle executive courses as well?
It would be interesting to know how this is handled.

Executive staff is paid by the developer, and then reimbursed by the districts, championship maintenance is separate from executive. not the same superintendents.

[drcar]

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki

As I asked previously, under the current system; do the development districts…..

Pay to use the tee time system?
Pay the marshals?
Pay for the carts that are at some of the executive courses?
Pay for the staff to work in the starters shacks?
Pay for the divot repair mixture?

I assume, the DD pay the developer for course maintenance?

LOL, there has been and will be a agreement between both parties to cover all this.

[rustyp]

Originally Posted by rustyp

This is an interesting post however raises many questions in my mind.
1. What meeting and for what purpose ?
2. Who is we in "we were told"
3. What is the old agreement Vs new agreement (or are you referring to the new proposal).
4. Why would a trail fee be mandatory for priority members and not regular members
5. The telephone part of the tee time system is free, $8/mo for computer access. Everyone is at liberty to use the free part. Does any of the amenities fees from the AAC and PWAC support the system. If not why not ?

Maybe the developer is not such a bad monarch as being portrayed. Maybe we already had the aforementioned win / win. Developer offered a stipend for priority membership estimated to be 2% of Villagers and in return maintained (which is probably a sizable expense) the tee time system that benefits the overwhelming majority of Villagers. The increased revenue by the new proposal is estimated at $380K/year. If the AAC and PWAC are not paying into the tee time system how much would it cost us (AAC and PWAC) to develop and maintain a separate system if the developer says take a hike ?

As it turns out the AAC met Friday and into the room waltz an 11 page document from the developer in essence says OK we will remove the stipend of free executive trail fee with a priority membership but the AAC and PWAC now need to pay part of the tee time system at the tune of > $200K per year. The AAC vote was taken and 3 to 2 voted to table the agreement. The next step is meet with PWAC on Monday. Ref today's online news.

To my AAC reps can you publish what ever document agreement you bought to the table?

[Goldwingnut]

Originally Posted by rustyp

As it turns out the AAC met Friday and into the room waltz an 11 page document from the developer in essence says OK we will remove the stipend of free executive trail fee with a priority membership but the AAC and PWAC now need to pay part of the tee time system at the tune of > $200K per year. The AAC vote was taken and 3 to 2 voted to table the agreement. The next step is meet with PWAC on Monday. Ref today's online news.

To my AAC reps can you publish what ever document agreement you bought to the table?

Here's the agreement. There's a lot more to understand about the entire process and agreement than what is put out on the other site. Please feel free to attend the PWAC meeting tomorrow morning.

[Papa_lecki]

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[Bilyclub]

From the online rag:

Deputy District Manager Carrie Duckett revealed Friday that Villagers who purchase priority memberships now will receive the benefit of having their trail fees covered for the next 12 months at executive courses in The Villages.

[rustyp]

Originally Posted by Goldwingnut

Here's the agreement. There's a lot more to understand about the entire process and agreement than what is put out on the other site. Please feel free to attend the PWAC meeting tomorrow morning.

That is the exact agreement publish on the "other"site. I read it. Lot's of definitions and summaries of what's mine what's yours. My take away still is you can take the trail fee stipend away from the developer then the AAC and PWAC need to pay their fair share for other items like tee time system. One item I was not clear on - it specifies in great detail the developer owns all the courses south of 44 Is it trying to spell out you need give them the developer that proportion IE number of courses south of 44 divided by total PWAC courses ratio of trail fees collected by the PWAC ? How is that money being split up today ? As I posted before

1 Is this battle worth having
2 Developer carries a big stick - they came to the table, ducks in a row, full of legalize
3 How will a win/win be measured ?

I am not being trying to be a wise guy - I don't want to win this battle if it disrupts whatever harmonious relationship exist today between residents and developer in the future. This is a piddly $375K issue as opposed to years ago when there was a 40 million dollar issue when the community was 1/3 the size it is today (which is why the AAC exist today). As far as attending meetings I learned the pen is mightier than the sword. Plus I have a touch of germaphobia in me.

[Dana1963]

Originally Posted by Rainger99

I just saw that if you have a priority golf membership, it will not cover trail fees at executive golf courses.

“Those purchasing priority golf memberships in The Villages can lock in their executive golf trail fees for a year if they buy now before a final decision on a revised tee time and trail pass services agreement.“
But, let's keep this thread open forever.