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Old 04-02-2025, 09:36 AM
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Where did you find those FAA rules? What I have found looks a bit different.

Which of those rules do you claim the TV drone pilots have violated?

The clear violations listed in the letter absolutely must be discontinued but they seem to account for a tiny amount of the content that has been produced.

None, I don’t care one way or they other.
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Old 04-02-2025, 09:39 AM
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If they are flying under 400', the FAA doesn't control the air space. It is unregulated, Class G airspace.

Flying drones is not the issue.

Taking video and publishing it on social media is the primary issue.

Please don't confuse what's at issue here.
The FAA sees things a bit differently. From this FAA Airspace 101 page:
FAA rules apply to the entire National Airspace System -- there is no such thing as "unregulated" airspace.
Drones can fly below 400' in the uncontrolled Class G airspace but the FAA does have authority over that airspace.

But as you point out, for the most part the issue is the videography and not the actual flight.
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Old 04-02-2025, 09:40 AM
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Can you please provide the web address where I would go to register my land as a "no-fly zone".

Where would one report a drone flying over me, when I'm not participating in the drone operation?
Sorry I only do simple google searches.

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No permission is needed to fly over nearly any fixed object (certain airspace is restricted and there are rules about flying over people or moving vehicles).

Flying into a building under construction or flying near a person is something else.

While the home is being constructed, the "homeowner" is the Villages. There is a prospective buyer but ownership has not changed hands at that point.
However, the land/lot had to paid for in advance. We had to put 10% down to secure the lot and the balance paid once the home building contract was signed. For those of us that built, we paid the lot off before the first concrete pour was even planned.
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Old 04-02-2025, 10:08 AM
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However, the land/lot had to paid for in advance. We had to put 10% down to secure the lot and the balance paid once the home building contract was signed. For those of us that built, we paid the lot off before the first concrete pour was even planned.
Had no idea you have to pay in full that early
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It's still not yours until the transaction closes. You may feel differently, but these are legal definitions.
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However, the land/lot had to paid for in advance. We had to put 10% down to secure the lot and the balance paid once the home building contract was signed. For those of us that built, we paid the lot off before the first concrete pour was even planned.
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It's still not yours until the transaction closes. You may feel differently, but these are legal definitions.
I could be wrong and I'd be interested to hear if I am ... but

I believe you are required to "deposit" the amount of the land cost, prior to construction, but there is no "deed" (Grant) involved.

Which would mean you have an equitable interest in the land, but no "ownership" of the land.

If there was an actual "closing" and you took possession of the land and then signed a new contract for "construction", that would be a different story.

In essence, I'm saying the same thing as VAtoFLA said, above. It may sound like semantics, but there's a significant legal difference in those 2 processes.
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Old 04-02-2025, 11:00 AM
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Who thought it was OK to actually fly inside a building under construction? That's just common sense and downright inconsiderate!

The fact that even the "Homeowner" that is contracted to purchase the home is not really the "Homeowner" until the home is completed and closed would be a problem for me. If I contract to build a home I will be on site pretty much everyday if possible. I couldn't handle having a house built and not be allowed on site during construction.
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Old 04-02-2025, 11:04 AM
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However, the land/lot had to paid for in advance. We had to put 10% down to secure the lot and the balance paid once the home building contract was signed. For those of us that built, we paid the lot off before the first concrete pour was even planned.
Correct, the lot is paid for before a home is ever constructed. We bought our lot in Moultrie Creek. We had to put money down, then we had a design appointment, then we had to pay for the lot in full before we left for them to build.

A shout out to Goldwingnut, we love what you do and are glad you didn’t cave to the builder. Keep em coming. You do a great service for us all.
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Old 04-02-2025, 11:48 AM
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Who thought it was OK to actually fly inside a building under construction? That's just common sense and downright inconsiderate!

The fact that even the "Homeowner" that is contracted to purchase the home is not really the "Homeowner" until the home is completed and closed would be a problem for me. If I contract to build a home I will be on site pretty much everyday if possible. I couldn't handle having a house built and not be allowed on site during construction.
I wonder how low Don Wiley will go in showing new homeowner the house under construction? Does he actually fly inside the house? I saw Don flying a drone inside a rec room and he does have great control over the drone.
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Old 04-02-2025, 12:41 PM
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I wonder how low Don Wiley will go in showing new homeowner the house under construction? Does he actually fly inside the house? I saw Don flying a drone inside a rec room and he does have great control over the drone.
Flying in the Villages and following the FAA Rules is legal, I have been flying for years but what you need to understand is your living in the villages where people have nothing better to do than to complain about anything and everything, Follow the FAA rules and regulations and you’ll be fine , as a courtesy don’t fly over people or cars or the squares when there’s an event use common sense always fly safe safely and enjoy your flight. Maybe the powers to be in the villages don’t want you flying over their sites for reasons that might legally come back to them in a negative way!
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Old 04-02-2025, 03:41 PM
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We were greatly influenced by your videos Don. Keep them comimg.
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Flying drones is not the issue.
Taking video and publishing it on social media is the primary issue.
Developer sent letters to only drone pilots.
No letters to anyone else posting videos of the area.
No letters to anybody posting their opinions online, such as this forum. Many of those posts are very negative towards what happens here.
No letters to anyone else doing very similar activities.

Putting info on social media is constitutionally protected free speech. Kindly explain how that "is the issue" considering their actions were taken only against drone operators. That does not fit the events that have happened.
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Putting info on social media is constitutionally protected free speech. Kindly explain how that "is the issue" considering their actions were taken only against drone operators. That does not fit the events that have happened.

Unless folks were flying around with jet packs on their backs, I'm not sure how they could produce the same sort of video as a drone can produce.

TV construction sites are almost always posted with "No Trespassing" signs, which means unless the videographers have the aforementioned "jet packs" or are using a drone to take video ... it can't be done.

You suspect some movie starlet is nude sun bathing on her rooftop and want to see her and sell some photos to the National Inquirer ... but her home is posted with "No Trespassing" signs? How do you get to see her? Use your Jet Pack or Drone to beat the No Trespassing signs and take the photos.

The public is prohibited from peeking in the windows of your home and taking photos, but any clown with a Drone has no such prohibition?

Therein lies the issue. That exactly fits the events. Otherwise unavailable videos, were posted on the internet. One's 1st Amendment rights of free speech, are tempered by the obligation to obtain the information legitimately. See Lee v. Internet Entertainment Group, Inc., 33 F. App'x 886
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