[retiredguy123]

I agree that the push-pull valves are not a good product, but they are very popular and used by builders all over the country, not just in The Villages. And, they do comply with the plumbing code.

[Taltarzac725]

Can anyone suggest a good reasonably priced Villages' plumber to replace a push-pull valve that broke on me while pressure washing my sidewalk?

Did not know there was a problem until I took a break from pressure washing and found myself resting my feet on a wet carpet in front of the John.

Had to turn water off in the house as the leak continues with no tab attached to the push-pull valve .


Back toilet push-pull was replaced about 6 or more years ago. Before COVID.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Can anyone suggest a good reasonably priced Villages' plumber to replace a push-pull valve that broke on me while pressure washing my sidewalk?

Did not know there was a problem until I took a break from pressure washing and found myself resting my feet on a wet carpet in front of the John.

Had to turn water off in the house as the leak continues with no tab attached to the push-pull valve .


Back toilet push-pull was replaced about 6 or more years ago. Before COVID.

You've seen recommendations for plumbers on here. We've had success with Mike Scott but haven't had any valves replaced so can't speak to the price for that.

The YouTube videos on removing those made it look pretty simple. You might be able to do it yourself in less time that it would take to find a number to call.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

You've seen recommendations for plumbers on here. We've had success with Mike Scott but haven't had any valves replaced so can't speak to the price for that.

The YouTube videos on removing those made it look pretty simple. You might be able to do it yourself in less time that it would take to find a number to call.

Does Ace Hardware carry these push-pull valves? The one in my front bathroom fell apart.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Does Ace Hardware carry these push-pull valves? The one in my front bathroom fell apart.

I'm sorry, I haven't looked for them.

I imagine Ace would have some sort of Shark bite 1/4 turn valve but you could call to ask. I have to believe Lowes would also.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Can anyone suggest a good reasonably priced Villages' plumber to replace a push-pull valve that broke on me while pressure washing my sidewalk?

Did not know there was a problem until I took a break from pressure washing and found myself resting my feet on a wet carpet in front of the John.

Had to turn water off in the house as the leak continues with no tab attached to the push-pull valve .


Back toilet push-pull was replaced about 6 or more years ago. Before COVID.

Mike Scott Plumbing replaced the 2 toilet valves in my house with quarter turn metal valves for $60 each plus a $75 trip fee. I don't see a reason to replace the other valves because I have never needed to use them. But, if I wanted to replace all of them, I would count them (it should be about 13 valves) and call a few plumbers to get a firm lump sum price to replace every valve. Personally, I would only hire a licensed plumber to do the work.

[hotpotato]

Look on YouTube for relevant videos. Not that hard to do. I bought my valves at HomeDepot - BrassCraft PR19X C1 - multiturn angle valve.

[jrref]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

You've seen recommendations for plumbers on here. We've had success with Mike Scott but haven't had any valves replaced so can't speak to the price for that.

The YouTube videos on removing those made it look pretty simple. You might be able to do it yourself in less time that it would take to find a number to call.

Although the mechanism to remove these valves looks simple and it is, you need a lot of arm and hand strength to turn and pull these valves off. I had all 13 of my valves changed. The plumber was in his late 20's and was having a tough time. Some come off easy and some not so easy. I would recommend getting a plumber if you have more than a couple to change. Look at it as a one time investment in preventing a future flood in your home.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by jrref

Although the mechanism to remove these valves looks simple and it is, you need a lot of arm and hand strength to turn and pull these valves off. I had all 13 of my valves changed. The plumber was in his late 20's and was having a tough time. Some come off easy and some not so easy. I would recommend getting a plumber if you have more than a couple to change. Look at it as a one time investment in preventing a future flood in your home.

Under normal circumstances I would not change any. If I wanted to change them all I might get a plumber also. But a flooded room on a Sunday afternoon resulting in no water in the house wasn't normal circumstances.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Originally Posted by hotpotato

Look on YouTube for relevant videos. Not that hard to do. I bought my valves at HomeDepot - BrassCraft PR19X C1 - multiturn angle valve.

not hard, until it is. . I did the easy ones until I couldn't, and then called a plumber. .

examples of hard:
1) very little body space between sink cabinet and outlet to gain leverage to pull against without pulling on pipe
2) refrigerator in wall box with no room to hold pipe and lift valve off
3) zero pipe extension from wall when the plastic pipe gets scarred

everything works until it doesn't
lots of activities are easy until they aren't

[bilcon]

Originally Posted by ridge

Our home is going on 12 years old and have the typical push/pull water shut off values. Been reading their life span is about 10 years before they start leaking. Anyone have any experience with them beyond 10 years? Should I replace them? Do they really begin failing? If you replaced them, what did you use? Thanks for your responses.

Mine are 15 years old and never leaked. I do turn off my main water when I go on trips.

[JRcorvette]

Originally Posted by ridge

Our home is going on 12 years old and have the typical push/pull water shut off values. Been reading their life span is about 10 years before they start leaking. Anyone have any experience with them beyond 10 years? Should I replace them? Do they really begin failing? If you replaced them, what did you use? Thanks for your responses.

If they push in or out easily they are starting to fail. A plumber can replace them with the old fashioned type we all use to have. We replaced one that failed but there was no leaking.

[jrref]

Originally Posted by bilcon

Mine are 15 years old and never leaked. I do turn off my main water when I go on trips.

It's like anything else. Once you are beyond the "lifespan" of the device, you are gambling on having a devistating flood in your home. Most of the time they just start leaking but that leak can also cause a lot of damage if you are not aware of it. So, unless you are going to check under all your sinks and behind your refrigerator every day, best to plan to get them replaced.

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

No guarantees in plumbing, why plumbers there alway busy. Two connections vs 4.

Your valve can fail also, more places to leak and brass will corrode over time. Also could leak between the clued on PVC slip and brass valve. My SBs got 11 years on them so far easily turn off and on and look like new. To each their own.

Useless history. In high school-long time ago-I got a summer job working in a machine shop. No skill but cheap labor. We were making valves out of monel-expensive, stainless steel. I made over a million parts. Why monel? They were expensive and sold in the south to stand up to the water. Who knows some might still be working. Why are parts plastic not brass. Simple, our water eats brass and it is more expensive than PLASTIC. Things are done far different than used to be. I still have tubing benders for the solid pipes used to fill the ballcock and the sink valves. The ballcock was brass and you would rebuild it. Valves the good ones had replaceable seats. All is compromise, cost, time-same as cost and good enough.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by DAVES

Useless history. In high school-long time ago-I got a summer job working in a machine shop. No skill but cheap labor. We were making valves out of monel-expensive, stainless steel. I made over a million parts. Why monel? They were expensive and sold in the south to stand up to the water. Who knows some might still be working. Why are parts plastic not brass. Simple, our water eats brass and it is more expensive than PLASTIC. Things are done far different than used to be. I still have tubing benders for the solid pipes used to fill the ballcock and the sink valves. The ballcock was brass and you would rebuild it. Valves the good ones had replaceable seats. All is compromise, cost, time-same as cost and good enough.

Still no guarantee in plumbing EVERYTHING fails eventually or all sudden.