[collie1228]

People can be just obnoxious. Two examples. Last evening we went to Spanish Springs to watch Scooter the DJ for a few minutes. We stood well outside of the fence, just the two of us, masks on with no one within thirty feet of us. In other words, relatively safe and respecting the personal space of others. Within five minutes, some guy comes right up behind me, with his head no more than two feet from mine, almost looking over my shoulder. I politely asked him to move back and give me at least six feet of space. Then, even worse, a youngish woman decided to leave the venue, and rather than leave at the designate entrance/exit point, she tiptoed along the little stream on the side of the square, and pushed the plastic guard chain aside, so she could squeeze in front of us and go on her merry way. Another close encounter of less than three feet! I was less polite with her. Two very nerve wracking encounters in less than fifteen minutes. I guess we can't be safe anywhere as long as there are folks around who won't respect others. Sad.

[shut the front door]

It's going to happen, and you know it's going to happen (because we read a post about it on this board every freaking day), yet you went anyway.
There are inconsiderate people in every place in the world. If you can't deal with them, stay home. Pandemic or not, inconsiderate people do not warrant all the pearl clutching and message board rants. They are living in your head rent free, and you are letting them.

[dhdallas]

Originally Posted by collie1228

People can be just obnoxious. Two examples. Last evening we went to Spanish Springs to watch Scooter the DJ for a few minutes. We stood well outside of the fence, just the two of us, masks on with no one within thirty feet of us. In other words, relatively safe and respecting the personal space of others. Within five minutes, some guy comes right up behind me, with his head no more than two feet from mine, almost looking over my shoulder. I politely asked him to move back and give me at least six feet of space. Then, even worse, a youngish woman decided to leave the venue, and rather than leave at the designate entrance/exit point, she tiptoed along the little stream on the side of the square, and pushed the plastic guard chain aside, so she could squeeze in front of us and go on her merry way. Another close encounter of less than three feet! I was less polite with her. Two very nerve wracking encounters in less than fifteen minutes. I guess we can't be safe anywhere as long as there are folks around who won't respect others. Sad.

"Misinformation is just as dangerous as the disease is right now," says Erie News Now Contributor, Dr. Becky Dawson. "I think we are spreading misinformation as quickly as we are spreading the disease." News outlets thrive on stories of death & violence. "If it bleeds, it leads" is the age old axiom.

Most deaths occur when the patient has comorbid factors involved, i.e. one foot in the grave already! Hospitals are reimbursed at a much higher rate if COVID is listed as the cause of death. I am a retired RN and Paramedic who worked during both the onset of AIDS and H1N1 epidemics and never saw the level of fear and misleading information as I have seen with COVID.

I have had both H1N1 & COVID. The H1N1 was much worse and was every bit as bad as when I had pneumonia on two separate occasions in the past. My COVID was similar to the flu: chills & fever, coughing, congestion and general malaise. I am not downplaying that COVID is serious. It can be deadly for those with preexisting illnesses. For the rest of us, it is an inconvenience!

The stress, anxiety, loneliness & loss of income caused by the fear of COVID is far more damaging than the virus itself.

In a letter to to John Norvell, 14 June 1807, Thomas Jefferson wrote, "Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle. I really look with commiseration over the great body of my fellow citizens, who, reading newspapers, live & die in the belief, that they have known something of what has been passing in the world in their time..."

The deception continues and we, like sheep, are willing participants.
A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.
Edward R. Murrow.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

to dhdallas you are incorrect. There are thousands of people who have died from COVID who had no pre-existing conditions. There are also millions who have survived it, who now have conditions they didn't have before they got the virus.

People who never had heart problems, or lung problems, got the virus, recovered from the virus, but now live with heart and/or lung problems that will require monitoring and medication for the rest of their lives.

There are people who weren't obese, not old, didn't fit into ANY of the categories of "at risk" - who got sick and died from COVID.

Talk about spreading misinformation - your post does a bangup job of it.

[vintageogauge]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

to dhdallas you are incorrect. There are thousands of people who have died from COVID who had no pre-existing conditions. There are also millions who have survived it, who now have conditions they didn't have before they got the virus.

People who never had heart problems, or lung problems, got the virus, recovered from the virus, but now live with heart and/or lung problems that will require monitoring and medication for the rest of their lives.

There are people who weren't obese, not old, didn't fit into ANY of the categories of "at risk" - who got sick and died from COVID.

Talk about spreading misinformation - your post does a bangup job of it.

This too is misinformation. You don't know what conditions these people may have had, there are thousands of people out there that rarely if ever see a doctor, those with heart and/or lung problems that do not have symptoms and therefore were never diagnosed. Those who use street drugs but keep it quiet. We have all heard of people that after a good physical and stress test ended up having heart attacks shortly thereafter. There are many people at risk that just don't know that they are. I have had two family members die in their mid 60's, one with a heart attack and the other from a stroke. Both were strong and active people with no signs of illness.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Originally Posted by dhdallas

"Misinformation is just as dangerous as the disease is right now," says Erie News Now Contributor, Dr. Becky Dawson. "I think we are spreading misinformation as quickly as we are spreading the disease." News outlets thrive on stories of death & violence. "If it bleeds, it leads" is the age old axiom.

Most deaths occur when the patient has comorbid factors involved, i.e. one foot in the grave already! Hospitals are reimbursed at a much higher rate if COVID is listed as the cause of death. I am a retired RN and Paramedic who worked during both the onset of AIDS and H1N1 epidemics and never saw the level of fear and misleading information as I have seen with COVID.

I have had both H1N1 & COVID. The H1N1 was much worse and was every bit as bad as when I had pneumonia on two separate occasions in the past. My COVID was similar to the flu: chills & fever, coughing, congestion and general malaise. I am not downplaying that COVID is serious. It can be deadly for those with preexisting illnesses. For the rest of us, it is an inconvenience!

The stress, anxiety, loneliness & loss of income caused by the fear of COVID is far more damaging than the virus itself.

In a letter to to John Norvell, 14 June 1807, Thomas Jefferson wrote, "Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle. I really look with commiseration over the great body of my fellow citizens, who, reading newspapers, live & die in the belief, that they have known something of what has been passing in the world in their time..."

The deception continues and we, like sheep, are willing participants.
A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.
Edward R. Murrow.

who write these don’t don’t worry be happy posts and there COVID was always not to bad the writer mentions having H1N1 and pneumonia twice perhaps taking precautions may have helped not getting sick. I also don’t know where you are from but living in Boston and spending much of my time outside USA there was quite a lot of fear about aids that created much hate and anger towards gay people, addicts and anyone else that got it. Go back and review the early years of where even families through out people who were sick

[Topspinmo]

Just move when they get too close, it’s that simple.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Just move when they get too close, it’s that simple.

That's a solution to the situation but not to the frustration.

We were at a square the other night. There were three appropriately spaced rows of chairs in our area. A group came and decided six feet was plenty enough space to create a new row in between. They placed their chairs close enough to us that I could not cross my legs without kicking the back of their chairs.

Yes, a solution to that situation was to let them chase us away or chase us out entirely. But the real problem was frustration caused by their lack of consideration in not respecting the six-foot distancing.

[Velvet]

Yes, I move out of the way and if I can’t, I let out either a loud yelp or under some circumstances, a blue streak. But then I don’t go anywhere where I can’t control my space in the first place. Some people I know if a person comes too close may feel their lives threatened and will react physically. Disrespect is the least of their worries.

[JoMar]

Originally Posted by dhdallas

"Misinformation is just as dangerous as the disease is right now," says Erie News Now Contributor, Dr. Becky Dawson. "I think we are spreading misinformation as quickly as we are spreading the disease." News outlets thrive on stories of death & violence. "If it bleeds, it leads" is the age old axiom.

Most deaths occur when the patient has comorbid factors involved, i.e. one foot in the grave already! Hospitals are reimbursed at a much higher rate if COVID is listed as the cause of death. I am a retired RN and Paramedic who worked during both the onset of AIDS and H1N1 epidemics and never saw the level of fear and misleading information as I have seen with COVID.

I have had both H1N1 & COVID. The H1N1 was much worse and was every bit as bad as when I had pneumonia on two separate occasions in the past. My COVID was similar to the flu: chills & fever, coughing, congestion and general malaise. I am not downplaying that COVID is serious. It can be deadly for those with preexisting illnesses. For the rest of us, it is an inconvenience!

The stress, anxiety, loneliness & loss of income caused by the fear of COVID is far more damaging than the virus itself.

In a letter to to John Norvell, 14 June 1807, Thomas Jefferson wrote, "Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle. I really look with commiseration over the great body of my fellow citizens, who, reading newspapers, live & die in the belief, that they have known something of what has been passing in the world in their time..."

The deception continues and we, like sheep, are willing participants.
A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.
Edward R. Murrow.

Do you now feel better that you also contributed to the misinformation trail?

[karostay]

HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Your in the Villages

[Kenswing]

And around and around we go.. Again..

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by karostay

HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Your in the Villages

Yes, but you have probably noticed, the pandemic is everywhere on the globe. When one threatens to pass it on, they threaten the entire globe, as the virus is spreading faster and faster. And some of the same people are claiming to worry about the environment, but I guess people don’t count.

[davem4616]

people are all behaving differently during this pandemic, rather than getting your back up, you could have easily moved away vs. 'protecting your space'....

give that a try next time

[Byte1]

If you feel threatened then stay home, period.
I know of no one that has been infected by someone that has passed by them "too" close when they have been wearing protection. So, if one feels so endangered why don't they just hide in their safe rooms at home until they hear the "all clear" announcement? You are guaranteed NOT to catch the virus if you stay at home. If you hazard a trip out and about, the chances of catching the COVID when using protection is very low.
You are free to live life as you wish. You can hide and live longer, or you can live FREE and take your chances. But, if you hide from life and the boogieman and live a life of fear, are you really living? Your life and your choice.
The other day, I was in Publix shopping in the frozen food section and suddenly realized that I was staring at a woman that was not wearing a mask, but she was maintaining her distance from everyone. I realized that I had not even thought about whether anyone else was wearing a mask until I happened to notice this lady without one. She must have realized I was staring and commented "What?" as if challenging me. I started suddenly, realizing I was lost in contemplation and hadn't realized that I was staring. I replied "Oh, I was just trying to calculate how many carbs I would be consuming if I was to get one of these frozen pizzas." Then I added, "getting old is a bummer, but the alternative is worse." She did not say anything and just went about her way. Personally, I have no problem with folks that do not wish to wear a mask. I do not feel threatened, but I am disappointed that they do not respect the wishes of the business that display a request for mask wearing at the entrance. I had a fleeting thought that some folks should wear a mask to cover their mad expressions that seem to be frozen on their faces.