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Old 02-28-2020, 05:33 PM
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What you describe is not the way all gated communities work. With many gated communities, you are not going to talk your way in. I have lived in one such community and unless your name was on a list or the guard contacted the resident, you were not getting in through the front gate. This does not mean you could not find a place to climb over the walls.
Yep.

My last home was in a truly gated, golf course community...and that's pretty much the way it worked. It was actually a bit of overkill...in my honest opinion.

If the name(s) weren't already on your list (you kept up with it online), the guard would call the homeowner. If the homeowner didn't answer...tough luck.

Or if you said you were golfing, they would call the clubhouse to verify your tee time.

We had one particular guard that thought she was Hitler and the visitor line early every morning, from yard crews/house crews/Etc...was beyond ridiculous.

My yard guy and housekeeper said the guards verified identification information from every single person in the vehicle and this one...seemed to enjoy taking her time doing it.

I probably wouldn't have put up with it myself...regardless of how much I was getting paid.
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Old 02-28-2020, 07:39 PM
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... The Villages calls themselves a gated community, which technically it is.

...it just seems to me that the gates, along with the guards, don't make this a true "gated community". Further, I question the need for the gates, guards and guard shacks since they do not seem to be making anything secure. What am I missing here?
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I did not say TV is a "true" gated community...please re-read my post. This is a oxymoron, since TV is a community with gates, but it is not a gated community.
The Villages does not call itself a gated community. Once you get that part straight, the rest of your concern no longer exists - whether a 'true" gated community or otherwise.
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May it could be described as a "stop gate" community; you know, like "stop sign" and "stop light".
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Old 02-28-2020, 09:30 PM
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May it could be described as a "stop gate" community; you know, like "stop sign" and "stop light".
exactly!
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Old 02-28-2020, 09:34 PM
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This is not a gated community, but a community with gates.
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Old 02-28-2020, 11:53 PM
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No, its a community that uses gates as traffic control devices--can't fathom the reason for having manned gates helter/skelter,IMHO do away with the manned gates--one of the bushiest gates in TV ,St. Charles & Buena Vista is unmanned, the same goes for the gate @ Pinellas Pl & 466a
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Old 02-29-2020, 05:50 AM
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Yes, I stated a gated community, not a "True" gated community. I omitted the word "True" in my post. Please read again.
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Old 02-29-2020, 06:18 AM
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Has to do with sales, of course. Gated community permits higher real estate value and enables small discount on home owners insurance. Nothing but a sales tool.
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Old 02-29-2020, 06:33 AM
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The Villages is not a gated community, it is a deeded community. Gates are there to control traffic.
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Old 02-29-2020, 07:16 AM
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When I first visited a friend here back in 2005 off of Morse, we had to stop at the gate to her Village give our name which was on a list and wait for the guard to call her to confirm we were allowed to visit before he would open the gate for us to enter. Therefore at least part if not all of TV was a gated community at some point.
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Old 02-29-2020, 07:21 AM
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OP stated “... The Villages calls themselves a gated community, which technically it is.“ This is not true! The Villages have NEVER called themselves a gated community!
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Old 02-29-2020, 07:21 AM
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While you might have spoken to someone over the intercom at the gate (which are all pretty much gone now), if the roads were county roads then they cannot deny you access.

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When I first visited a friend here back in 2005 off of Morse, we had to stop at the gate to her Village give our name which was on a list and wait for the guard to call her to confirm we were allowed to visit before he would open the gate for us to enter. Therefore at least part if not all of TV was a gated community at some point.
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Old 02-29-2020, 07:23 AM
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When I first visited a friend here back in 2005 off of Morse, we had to stop at the gate to her Village give our name which was on a list and wait for the guard to call her to confirm we were allowed to visit before he would open the gate for us to enter. Therefore at least part if not all of TV was a gated community at some point.
Probably when the roads were still private and before being sold to the county?

Neighbors who have been here for over 15 years, have told me that the original plan was to make each village a truly gated community, but when the infrastructure was sold to the county and thus became public...this was no longer legal.

Which makes sense, because who could imagine a gate on say 466...that you had to be a resident to use?
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Old 02-29-2020, 07:52 AM
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Your are correct, it is not a true gated community. The roads are maintained by the county and access can not be denied. However, a picture is taken of every car that goes thru a gate and if there is a problem, the bad guy's car is available to the police. Next best thing and the bad guys know it.
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Old 02-29-2020, 08:01 AM
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TV is a community with gates, not a gated community. The roads are owned maintained by the county, therefore driving on the roads is a public right.
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