[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Curtisbwp

Why would you ask. I don't care who wears what. I protect myself, that is my responsibility.

I care if you don't. It is up to EVERYONE to do their part. Wear a mask when in public indoor spaces and wear a mask outdoors when you can not maintain distance from others. It is that simple.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Then WHY are ALL the medical professionals on TV BEGGING US people to wear their masks? And how else can anyone explain why the US with its under 5% of the world's population be CAUSING 19 % of the world's DEATHS. I am thinking that not wearing masks is causing ALL the out --proportioned US DEATHS.

Look up confirmation bias. I don't believe all, even capitalized, is strictly accurate.

Other possible reasons for the large percentage in the US:
- Not the highest ratio in the world (top 10? maybe)
- Higher population density in areas of the US that are spiking
- Mis-steps in the beginning (NY nursing homes among others)
- No lockdowns (I don't want to live in a country with police on every corner asking for my papers if I leave my house)
- Poor counting in some countries
- Generally obstinate
- Too many "experts" demanding something today then something different tomorrow
- Fake news (from all sides) driving a lack of compliance (and common sense)
- US love of freedom - Don't Tread on Me - Just leave me the h**l alone

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

How would we know that, since we have NOT tried that?

In the same way we would know that it would work: proof by emphatic assertion.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Gulfcoast

You did not wear the same mask all day long. No you did not. Nor were you wearing homemade cloth masks. You were in a sterile environment, wearing medical grade masks and you were regularly washing your hands and switching out your gloves and your masks.

I'm not picking on you but it truly troubles me when medical people make these kinds of comparisons.

My aunt was an OR nurse for many years. She did wear a mask for hours on end in the OR. I can only report what she told me and I have no reason to doubt her word.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

I first heard about aerosols lingering in the air from the CDC.

CDC Says Coronavirus Might Be Adrift in Indoor Air - The New York Times

Please read the article.

[Dayeight99]

Who cares.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Gulfcoast

Is it true that a gym or grocery store is a sterile environment? Is it true that homemade cloth masks are sterile and as high a quality as medical grade masks? Is it safe for a cashier to be wearing/touching/adjusting a non sterile, non medical grade cloth mask all day long while scanning merchandise that has been touched by multiple hands?

I don't worry anymore about who has touched my merchandise in a grocery store. I've long stopped wiping every single grocery item down with sanitizer once it was stated by the CDC that the virus is not primarily transmitted by touching a surface. I do not ever touch my face with unwashed hands so I have no worry there. It has also been stated by the CDC that food does not transmit the virus so, no, I'm not concerned if people adjust their masks with their hands.

I do, however, wash apples that will not be cooked. It just makes me feel better to do that.

[Gulfcoast]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

My aunt was an OR nurse for many years. She did wear a mask for hours on end in the OR. I can only report what she told me and I have no reason to doubt her word.

It was a sterile medical grade mask, in a sterile hospital environment with lots of hand washing/sanitzing. That is not the same thing as being a busboy or a cashier.

There was someone earlier in this thread who mentioned how mask wearing made their own oxygen levels fall pretty dramatically which isn't healthy. It doesn't matter if that doesn't happen to you, it does happen to them. And they should be able to choose not to wear a mask at Publix if that is what they want to choose.

[Gulfcoast]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

I don't worry anymore about who has touched my merchandise in a grocery store. I've long stopped wiping every single grocery item down with sanitizer once it was stated by the CDC that the virus is not primarily transmitted by touching a surface. I do not ever touch my face with unwashed hands so I have no worry there. It has also been stated by the CDC that food does not transmit the virus so, no, I'm not concerned if people adjust their masks with their hands.

I do, however, wash apples that will not be cooked. It just makes me feel better to do that.

Are you a cashier?

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by mneumann02

Thanks for giving us the facts with the appropriate source. Unfortunately, some people just refuse to accept the truth about how dangerous this pandemic is. e.g., they believe it is no worse than the flu. Even more unfortunately, they do not take the precautions the rest of us do, which leads to even more spreading of the disease.

I saw an interview on TV the other day that made my mouth drop open in disbelief. An ICU nurse said that she has had patients, sick with Covid, come off a ventilator and say that they do not believe they were sick with Covid because they truly believe this pandemic is a hoax. She was in near tears explaining how overworked she and her colleagues are and trying their best to save the lives of these people. There is just something very wrong about this. I was aghast listening to her. People can be such fools.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

Totally untrue, masks cannot and will not stop the spread of the virus.

You made a true statement. Masks SLOW THE SPREAD of the virus and coupled with social distancing, will do what is expected of that mitigation process. All we can expect is for our risk to be minimized and keep the virus from exploding in our cities and overwhelm our health care systems.

Wear a mask in public indoor spaces and outdoors when social distancing can not be maintained. Always keep your distance from others.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

The Villages have about everything open, Not on the advice of medical experts. It is open because it was decreed that way by our big-time state tribal leader called a Governor. And this tribal leader has allegiance to ...........something? Out West and in the northern mid-west, the CV is raging and their rec centerlike places called gyms are closing down, and indoor restaurants are closing.

In reality, as a conclusion - we are living in a time period called "before CV and after CV". TV Land has been lucky so far. And some are looking ahead to a vaccine to put all of the broken Humpty-dumpty of America back together again. I predict that that does NOT go smoothly - NOTHING in life goes smoothly. The rec center question is just a microcosm of the greater macro forces of a national nature!

SO the Villages is violating everything that you believe and yet have hardly any virus related deaths(compared to everywhere else). Go figure. And you believe it is due to "LUCK?" What's luck got to do with your "science?" I am not denying the existence of luck, but I am denying the absolutes of "science."

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

The other day at my doctor's office the nurse checked my oxygen level as well as BP, pulse, etc. My oxygen level was 89. She told me to pull up my mask and take a couple breaths, my oxygen went up to it's normal 98. She said that she was seeing that a lot of people had low oxygen levels wearing masks. She has been a RN for a few decades now, so is she a liar?

What type of mask were you wearing? How many layers? Filter too? Was it easy to breath through your mask?

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

A simple question that could be answered with a phone call has once again turned into a debate on mask use. This debate appears to never have a conclusion.......

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

The US has less than 5% of the world's population. It has 19 % of the world's death. That suggests to me that the US has done SOMETHING(?) wrong! Since mask-wearing is the best available response that epidemiologists have STRONGLY suggested to us to do - and since most of we Americans have been propagandized toward not wearing masks - we of TV Land need to talk it out over and over until the CORRECT and unpropagandized message gets through. It is difficult to drill through the hardened layers of propaganda that have clouded the minds of zombiezed Americans. The goal of LIFE, liberty, and happiness starts with LIFE simply because you can't have liberty and happiness when you are DEAD!

I guess unless you maybe believe in reincarnation?

I think you are beating a dead horse.
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[NoMoSno]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

I first heard about aerosols lingering in the air from the CDC.

CDC Says Coronavirus Might Be Adrift in Indoor Air - The New York Times

So are you wearing goggles also?