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Old 05-16-2024, 10:30 AM
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If it's through The Villages personal real estate office, and their pet closing office, good luck with that.

The day I closed on my fully-furnished CYV, I inspected the home on the way to closing to discover that the sellers had stolen the best chair in the house. It was on the contract inventory and I had a photo of the seller's agent sitting in the chair.

Despite my photo and the contract inventory, both the sellers and their agent claimed the chair was not included, and I would lose my $10,000 deposit if I refused the deal. The Villages pet closing agent agreed. But good news! My Villages fake realtor negotiated $100 for a $900 chair! Then they held me up for 30 minutes after the closing on various made-up issues, while the sellers were released.

I drove straight to the house, to discover the seller's Mercedes SUV in my driveway, with the master bedroom TV stand and TV in the back. I found them in my living room, having used their illegally retained key for entry. They were in the process of stealing my big-screen TV. We had words, and they called me a "Dumb Okie", apparently for stupidly thinking that a contract means what it says. I called the Villages pet law enforcement office -- the Sumter Country Sheriff -- who, after hearing the details, told me to take it up with my closing agent.

Bad window, you say? Suck it up! Whadaya think this is Oklahoma or somethin'?

I’m surprised you didn’t want the MB also. After all fully furnished in your mine would include the car and all personal items. IMO selling house furnish means they don’t want what in house and it usually don’t make more than couple thousand difference in price. But, the jerk should have said it don’t include these items. I agree should have been arrested for being in house after closing.

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Old 05-16-2024, 10:36 AM
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I’m surprised you didn’t want the MB also. After all fully furnished in your mine would include the car and all personal items. IMO selling house furnish means they don’t want what in house and it usually don’t make more than couple thousand difference in price.
I don't want anybody's Bed Bug and Beyond furnishings. I can see an investor or flipper...but if it's your 'forever home', buy or bring your own stuff
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If it's through The Villages personal real estate office, and their pet closing office, good luck with that.

The day I closed on my fully-furnished CYV, I inspected the home on the way to closing to discover that the sellers had stolen the best chair in the house. It was on the contract inventory and I had a photo of the seller's agent sitting in the chair.

Despite my photo and the contract inventory, both the sellers and their agent claimed the chair was not included, and I would lose my $10,000 deposit if I refused the deal. The Villages pet closing agent agreed. But good news! My Villages fake realtor negotiated $100 for a $900 chair! Then they held me up for 30 minutes after the closing on various made-up issues, while the sellers were released.

I drove straight to the house, to discover the seller's Mercedes SUV in my driveway, with the master bedroom TV stand and TV in the back. I found them in my living room, having used their illegally retained key for entry. They were in the process of stealing my big-screen TV. We had words, and they called me a "Dumb Okie", apparently for stupidly thinking that a contract means what it says. I called the Villages pet law enforcement office -- the Sumter Country Sheriff -- who, after hearing the details, told me to take it up with my closing agent.

Bad window, you say? Suck it up! Whadaya think this is Oklahoma or somethin'?
Wow!! Just wow!!
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Old 05-16-2024, 11:57 AM
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If it's through The Villages personal real estate office, and their pet closing office, good luck with that.

The day I closed on my fully-furnished CYV, I inspected the home on the way to closing to discover that the sellers had stolen the best chair in the house. It was on the contract inventory and I had a photo of the seller's agent sitting in the chair.

Despite my photo and the contract inventory, both the sellers and their agent claimed the chair was not included, and I would lose my $10,000 deposit if I refused the deal. The Villages pet closing agent agreed. But good news! My Villages fake realtor negotiated $100 for a $900 chair! Then they held me up for 30 minutes after the closing on various made-up issues, while the sellers were released.

I drove straight to the house, to discover the seller's Mercedes SUV in my driveway, with the master bedroom TV stand and TV in the back. I found them in my living room, having used their illegally retained key for entry. They were in the process of stealing my big-screen TV. We had words, and they called me a "Dumb Okie", apparently for stupidly thinking that a contract means what it says. I called the Villages pet law enforcement office -- the Sumter Country Sheriff -- who, after hearing the details, told me to take it up with my closing agent.

Bad window, you say? Suck it up! Whadaya think this is Oklahoma or somethin'?
Where's Grady Judd when you need him? Under the same scenario you described, at least in Polk County....under arrest
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If it's through The Villages personal real estate office, and their pet closing office, good luck with that.

The day I closed on my fully-furnished CYV, I inspected the home on the way to closing to discover that the sellers had stolen the best chair in the house. It was on the contract inventory and I had a photo of the seller's agent sitting in the chair.

Despite my photo and the contract inventory, both the sellers and their agent claimed the chair was not included, and I would lose my $10,000 deposit if I refused the deal. The Villages pet closing agent agreed. But good news! My Villages fake realtor negotiated $100 for a $900 chair! Then they held me up for 30 minutes after the closing on various made-up issues, while the sellers were released.

I drove straight to the house, to discover the seller's Mercedes SUV in my driveway, with the master bedroom TV stand and TV in the back. I found them in my living room, having used their illegally retained key for entry. They were in the process of stealing my big-screen TV. We had words, and they called me a "Dumb Okie", apparently for stupidly thinking that a contract means what it says. I called the Villages pet law enforcement office -- the Sumter Country Sheriff -- who, after hearing the details, told me to take it up with my closing agent.

Bad window, you say? Suck it up! Whadaya think this is Oklahoma or somethin'?
We had something similar happen but with an independent agent. When we view the house and made our offer, we asked for the paint ca s, a file cabinet and some wood to be removed. When we went to the house after signing, EVERYTHING that was in the house had been removed EXCEPT the paint cans and the wood! The seller's realtor said the house was still the owners and they could remove what they wanted. When that realtor came a few days later to pick up his lock box, I said sorry, I own the house now so it's mine.
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We had something similar happen but with an independent agent. When we view the house and made our offer, we asked for the paint ca s, a file cabinet and some wood to be removed. When we went to the house after signing, EVERYTHING that was in the house had been removed EXCEPT the paint cans and the wood! The seller's realtor said the house was still the owners and they could remove what they wanted. When that realtor came a few days later to pick up his lock box, I said sorry, I own the house now so it's mine.
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OP working on another thread so guess he is not going to bother coming back. oh well
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Condensation between panes is a seal defect and is not just cosmetic (which is why the inspector noted it.) Sellers should repair it or give you an allowance for it. I do not think the homeowner gets to override the inspector.
I would review and consider the following:

1. What exactly does the Purchase and Sale Agreement state wrt curing conditions?
2. Cost to repair vs. Loss and expenses incurred, time you spent and materiality of the issue.
3. If seller is not obligated per the written agreement then from a practical standpoint is it really worth the brain damage and expenses incurred to pass on the deal?
4. As noted by other commentators it comes down to the facts and your risk appetite.
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Old 05-17-2024, 05:08 AM
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If buying a house, with lots of extras included like furniture and appliances... Have 2 separate deals so the house sale price is not artificially high causing subsequent property taxes to also be higher. Why would anyone want to pay property tax on a couch ... forever?
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Advice please - we are closing today and the Seller has refused to replace a double glazed upper window sash which the Home Inspector noted had condensation between the panes. The Seller is stating this is a cosmetic issue, so won't repair. Just wondered what you folks thought please?
We have been on both sides. One was cosmetic and the other was warranty. So you might have to just be happy with the house your getting.
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Condensation between panes is a seal defect and is not just cosmetic (which is why the inspector noted it.) Sellers should repair it or give you an allowance for it. I do not think the homeowner gets to override the inspector.
It doesn't work that way. We had one house that had condensation in the windows and it sold as is to the villages. We had another house that was under warranty and it had condensation in some of the windows and it was sold after the windows were replaced. So basically.
It depends on the situation. Not all situations are the same.
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If the home is less than 10 years old it would still be under warranty, you would pay the cost of installation and measuring only.
And depending what county it is in must get permit. Get all your,information and then ask for the money.. We used Romac years ago for window replacement.
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Advice please - we are closing today and the Seller has refused to replace a double glazed upper window sash which the Home Inspector noted had condensation between the panes. The Seller is stating this is a cosmetic issue, so won't repair. Just wondered what you folks thought please?
If you are adamant, don't close unless he credits you for repair. This should have been handled before this point in closing..It a lot late to even discuss in this forum... either close or dont' close.
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Old 05-17-2024, 06:40 AM
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Advice please - we are closing today and the Seller has refused to replace a double glazed upper window sash which the Home Inspector noted had condensation between the panes. The Seller is stating this is a cosmetic issue, so won't repair. Just wondered what you folks thought please?
It's probably a broken seal in the window. The only thing that matters is what did you agree to in writing per the sales contract. Was a repair addendum sent to the seller by your agent requesting the following repairs? If so, then if the repair is not complete, the title company needs to prepare addendum to hold seller funds in escrow to complete repair after closing. If no repair request was sent to seller requesting this repair per the contract requirements of (warranted items) to be repaired by the seller prior to closing, with a licensed contractor and receipts to be provided to buyer prior to closing then you are closing, and seller is not responsible. This repair request must be in writing and agreed to by all parties per contract requirements and timelines set forth in your sale and purchase contract.
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