Originally Posted by LndLocked (Post 948599)

In Ms Green's version, Bibas was at the rear of the car (and perhaps prone due to "tripping") and shot the tires / car. In the drivers account, Bibas was in front of the car when he shot.

It would seem that simple, basic forensic evidence could quickly determine which version is truthful.

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 948602)

I don't care if he was hanging over the car from a helicopter and the guy in the car was taunting him with nasty signs, he had NO reason to shoot his gun at them.

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 948545)

Do you really think this is the only place this is happening?

Originally Posted by LndLocked (Post 948606)

First of all I am not supporting either version, as I was not a witness nor participant .... only stating that simple evidence should be able to determine which is factual. Secondly, I did not in anyway condone using a weapon.

but for the sake of argument (as you seem to want to manufacture one with me) Let's just say that ms. Green's version is correct .... in which case the driver was literally attempting to run over Bibis. Would he be justified then? Do you support Fla's "stand your ground" law?

Originally Posted by cattywampus (Post 948573)

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Aggravated Assault , involving Discharge of a Firearm.

PLUS.......Florida Mandatory Minimum Sentencing
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EQUALS === Twenty Years in State Prison


Anybody know what he has been charged with .????

Originally Posted by Cisco Kid (Post 948562)

I bet all the golf carts will have to have bulletproof glass installed and the residents will need to wear bulletproof vest. The bubble is now a magnet. Soon ISIS & Ebola will headline at the squares. Has anyone added bars to theirs windows yet ?

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Originally Posted by gerryann (Post 948610)

Unfortunately no. It's happening all over. Just hate the drinking and guns combo. Leave the guns out of the bars. If you can't stay sober, leave your gun at home.

Originally Posted by NECHFalcon68 (Post 948627)

I thought this happened on 466.
I dont remember hearing of any bar-related shootings here in TV....

Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 948633)

It is against the law in Florida to carry a gun into a bar. Other business establishments are asking customers to leave their guns outside, such as Panera's, Target, Starbucks. Where do concealed carry license holders leave their guns when shopping in these places or entering a bar?

Originally Posted by Miles42 (Post 947707)

This isn't some quaint little village. We are home to thousands and not exempt from idiots.

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 948557)

Come on Concealed Carry, people clean up your act ????? You blame this on all of the good, law abiding people that exercise their God given right to carry a weapon? First of all, we don't even know if this guy had a permit. The gun could have been illegal. Secondly, how often have you heard of this kind of incident or any kind of illegal gun incident occurring involving people with CCPs?

We really have no idea what went on here. There are conflicting reports and I, personally, will wait for all of the information to come out before I post an opinion. But, I will not blame this one the legions of law abiding people, the vast majority of which have no desire to ever shoot anyone, that choose to carry a firearm.

And I will not make posts inferring that this sort of event is commonplace.

Originally Posted by gerryann (Post 948619)

My point exactly. Guns don't belong here. This is a retirement community. Who are you protecting yourself from? The only thing in my opinion that questions the safety of TV is wondering which senior citizen is walking around with a gun and doesn't know what to do with it. There is no reason to fire a weapon here unless your life is in imminent danger. I don't think the motorcycle guys life was in imminent danger. He was just a hotshot who wanted to scare the other guy.

Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 948666)

you might want to ask that auto driver if he would consider carrying a gun after being shot at? i never owned a gun but stories like this ae changing my mind. When you consider we are no longer strong enough to defend ourselves with our fists perhaps an equalizer like this is exactly what people of retirement age need


Personal Best Regards:

Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 948656)

Re-read his post. He was not saying all carry concealed people act like the Harley guy. He was saying the Harley guy-type people are giving carry concealed people a bad name. Kinda like those few dog poop people give the rest of us owners a bad name.