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Old 01-01-2023, 02:54 PM
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Driving south on Morse Blvd in the left hand lane exiting the roundabout to enter the village of Mallory, someone turned left from the right hand lane right in front of us. Then he got in the left hand lane to go through the visitors gate at a high rate of speed. Turned down Gayle Mill and drove straight into the Natalie Villas. Hope that person reads this and takes some lessons on how to maneuver rotaries.
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Old 01-01-2023, 03:13 PM
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I was going straight through a roundabout and a car exiting from the left hand lane turned right in front of me to exit. I had no option but to hit that car. WTF, since when do you turn right from the left hand lane in front of another car?
If you were entering a roundabout then you were violating this rule:

• Move up to the entrance line and wait for a gap in
traffic. DO NOT ENTER next to a vehicle in the roundabout, as that vehicle may be exiting at the next exit.

It is easy for new Villagers to make this mistake. I made it once when I first moved here and the driver stopped and waited for me to exit. I never did it again.

My personal rule is to always stay behind their rear bumper and assume that they are going to change lanes.
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Old 01-01-2023, 03:40 PM
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They can "turn right" as you call it when they are proceeding straight through the roundabout from the entrance on your left. You should have stayed far enough back to allow them to turn.
I don't know how you can make a judgment on this without actually seeing what happened. From what is being described, I would say that the person on the inside lane should already have been in outside lane since they knew or probably knew they were going to exit. Not only that, but how can you absolve someone who cuts in front of an ongoing vehicle? Weren't they paying attention? However, that is only based on what we're being told. We need to see it to make a definitive judgment. Guess we would have to hear both sides and then ask questions which is what I think a judge would do.
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Old 01-01-2023, 03:52 PM
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In addition at that specific roundabout, if you want to head south on Morse from that traffic circle, the right lane is for residents only. The left lane is for visitors (or residents). If you enter from El Camino Real on the OUTSIDE lane, but are not a resident, you MUST move into the left lane of that exit, to get through the visitors gate. You don't do it while you're in the circle, you do it the moment you exit - to your right. And then immediately shift to the left lane to get through the gate.
Actually if the visitor happened to be in the right side resident gate side, they could push the red button.
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Old 01-01-2023, 04:05 PM
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Why? That is exactly what the inside lane is for.
I was being facetious and responding to:

No, the inside lane does not exit to the right at that (or likely any) circle. As has been explained many times in this thread, other threads, and apparently the Florida driver's manual, when entering a roundabout the left lane becomes the inside lane and cannot exit to the right.

I guess I should have added a smiley face.
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Old 01-01-2023, 04:33 PM
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I don't know how you can make a judgment on this without actually seeing what happened. From what is being described, I would say that the person on the inside lane should already have been in outside lane since they knew or probably knew they were going to exit. Not only that, but how can you absolve someone who cuts in front of an ongoing vehicle? Weren't they paying attention? However, that is only based on what we're being told. We need to see it to make a definitive judgment. Guess we would have to hear both sides and then ask questions which is what I think a judge would do.
There's an easy answer to that-------He DID NOT CUT IN FRONT of another vehicle. He exited from the inner lane in accordance with EVERY sign, EVERY hand out, and EVERY law that deals with RBs of a vehicle going to the 2nd or 3rd exit.. The person who stated in their OP that they were in the outer lane going to the third exit is 1 million percent WRONG. PERIOD. No debate, no argument, they were WRONG, the driver who they claim "cut them off" was following the correct procedure. C'mon people this isn't rocket science, it's easy. Furthermore, not only was the OP wrong by trying to go 270 in the outer lane, the only way they could have been in a position just behind or alongside the other vehicle is if they entered the RB when he was coming around, which is also 1 million percent WRONG.
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Old 01-01-2023, 04:37 PM
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Can we also agree that we should always use our signal lights when exiting?
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Old 01-01-2023, 04:38 PM
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I was going straight through a roundabout and a car exiting from the left hand lane turned right in front of me to exit. I had no option but to hit that car. WTF, since when do you turn right from the left hand lane in front of another car?
Oops should have yielded . Look it up
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Can we also agree that we should always use our signal lights when exiting?
We should.

Now for the follow up question----how much do you trust the driver to do what his signal is indicating? Do you bet your life on it?
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Old 01-01-2023, 05:03 PM
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There's an easy answer to that-------He DID NOT CUT IN FRONT of another vehicle. He exited from the inner lane in accordance with EVERY sign, EVERY hand out, and EVERY law that deals with RBs of a vehicle going to the 2nd or 3rd exit.. The person who stated in their OP that they were in the outer lane going to the third exit is 1 million percent WRONG. PERIOD. No debate, no argument, they were WRONG, the driver who they claim "cut them off" was following the correct procedure. C'mon people this isn't rocket science, it's easy. Furthermore, not only was the OP wrong by trying to go 270 in the outer lane, the only way they could have been in a position just behind or alongside the other vehicle is if they entered the RB when he was coming around, which is also 1 million percent WRONG.
The OP stated they were going straight through. Not 270. I agree with them being wrong, but your facts arent accurate regarding the original post.
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Old 01-01-2023, 05:05 PM
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I was going straight through a roundabout and a car exiting from the left hand lane turned right in front of me to exit. I had no option but to hit that car.
Based on what you say, I think you caused the accident. If the other car was driving in the roundabout, you should not have entered the roundabout.

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WTF, since when do you turn right from the left hand lane in front of another car?
I do it all the time. When I am driving south on Morse, I need to go 3/4 of the way around a roundabout to get into Osceola Hulls. I enter the roundabout in the left lane, drive 3/4 of the way around, and cut across the right lane to get out.

If another car is in the right lane when I want to cut across, then I honk at them and keep honking until I get past them.

On the other hand, if they keep on going in the right lane, then I stop and let them go, but I keep honking at them until they are too far away to hear me.

I guess it is pretty obvious that I like to honk at other drivers.
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Old 01-01-2023, 05:06 PM
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Seven pages in and yet there is still disagreement so I will ask this question.

If I am traveling down Morrison and enter a roundabout with the intention of taking the third exit to enter through Charlotte's gate, I obviously have to enter the circle on the inside lane. But once I am 180 degs around at the second exit, how do I enter either gate without crossing across the outside lane?

Doesn't it make sense the the vehicles entering the circle must yield with the expectation that one of the cars coming around will be leaving the outer lane to go through a gate?
I am not changing lanes. I am exiting the circle by crossing over the outside lane.

Hence the rule:

Approaching Roundabouts
• Reduce your speed and prepare to YIELD to all traffic
in the roundabout

and

Move up to the entrance line and wait for a gap in
traffic. DO NOT ENTER next to a vehicle in the roundabout, as that vehicle may be exiting at the next exit.
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Old 01-01-2023, 05:16 PM
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think this horse is dead yet?
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Old 01-01-2023, 05:18 PM
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When the other car was suppose to turn in the previous street, we were just talking about how in the newer sections they have different ( scary) markings then north of 466a. Plus, too many ride the outside lane and that is a no no.
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Old 01-01-2023, 05:20 PM
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When the other car was suppose to turn in the previous street, we were just talking about how in the newer sections they have different ( scary) markings then north of 466a. Plus, too many ride the outside lane and that is a no no.not true, left lane has a turn into main road, outside lanes are for side street exits.
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