[JB in TV]

Originally Posted by CFrance

Which is the three o'clock exit? They're all three o'clock exits, depending on where you entered the roundabout.

Forget the broken lines and the signage if that confuses you. It's simple just to think of the roundabout as an intersection of two roads that are two lanes wide in each direction.. You would not ever make a left-hand turn from the right lane of that intersection, so don't do it in a roundabout.

CFrance...thanks. I understand how they need to be navigated...was just suggesting perhaps why it is so difficut for others, and a possible "solution". The line painting just doesn't make sense...at least in my mind. And for what it is worth, I am refering to making the right turn to the left most of the two entry lanes approaching the gate.

According to the pamphlet linked in a post above, "Do not change lanes within the roundabout or as you exit"...Sooo, there is no way to get into the visitor lane? At least at the Pinellas entry from Morse, as the OP mentioned. I will continue to change lanes as I exit the roundabout while I cross the solid white line.

And my reference to 3 o'clock was based on a previous poster's suggestion giving a point of reference.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by JB in TV

CFrance...thanks. I understand how they need to be navigated...was just suggesting perhaps why it is so difficut for others, and a possible "solution". The line painting just doesn't make sense...at least in my mind. And for what it is worth, I am refering to making the right turn to the left most of the two entry lanes approaching the gate.

According to the pamphlet linked in a post above, "Do not change lanes within the roundabout or as you exit"...Sooo, there is no way to get into the visitor lane? At least at the Pinellas entry from Morse, as the OP mentioned. I will continue to change lanes as I exit the roundabout while I cross the solid white line.

And my reference to 3 o'clock was based on a previous poster's suggestion giving a point of reference.

Sorry, JB. I didn't mean you don't know how to navigate roundabouts. I should have said If one is confused, not if you are confused.

Interesting that there is no signage at all at the roundbout of Powell Road down by Brownwood. There's just a one-way sign.

[SusanOfWoodbury]

I have lived in The Villages for almost 18 months. The problem being discussed at Pinellas is happening at every roundabout. Either people do not read the rules; they do not care or they get in the wrong lane! We all have to watch other drivers when going around the roundabouts.
Pinellas has two lanes at the gates. One for residents and one or visitor's. Coming from 466A the right lane would work for the gates, but, it also works for people traveling south. So, we need to beware of all drivers..

[xkeowner]

Originally Posted by looneycat

that is not the intersection being discussed, the signs vary depending on the most expedient traffic pattern for THAT circle.

This is the root cause of the problems. In Europe and Asia the rules and markings are the same for every roundabout. Not true in TV. TV needs to determine a standard for signage/striping and implement the same. Then the issue becomes education and compliance. Roundabouts are very efficient at moving traffic when properly utilized. As in any other driving situation, if you are changing lanes you must yield to the lane to are changing into ie. turning right from the center lane.

[justjim]

When it comes to the roundabouts in TV there is an old' cliche----it's very difficult to teach an old dog new tricks. Many have never seen or driven in a roundabout before visiting or moving to TV.

Standardization of the signage and markings would certainly help. The biggest problem is there are too many cars in too big of a hurry. It almost seems that a roundabout is an accident waiting to happen!

[gomoho]

I may be crazy, but I believe the arrows painted on the street at each round-a-bout clearly indicate what you should do. Follow these and you won't go wrong, until the guy that isn't paying attention plows into you.

[dotti105]

Wow!

Been using roundabouts my entire driving life.....Always have understood the right lane only exits. if you are preparing to exit, you need to merge into the right lane ahead of time.

Exiting across the right lane from the left is not safe or smart....although it may be "legal" here. (why that is?? mystery to me!)

All the more reason to use the golf cart whenever possible!!!!

[Mikeod]

Originally Posted by gomoho

I may be crazy, but I believe the arrows painted on the street at each round-a-bout clearly indicate what you should do. Follow these and you won't go wrong, until the guy that isn't paying attention plows into you.

I find it better to ignore the lane markings and pay attention to the signs placed before the roundabout which CLEARLY show which lane entering can go where.

[Bonanza]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

This disagrees.

These round-abouts/circles really are a problem. The physical sign (see photo) conflicts with the white markings on the street. We all know that a solid lines means not to pass and that a broken line means that you can pass. The street markings should definately follow the signs. They conflict one another. Isn't it the local DOT who has marked these roads?

It sure is a mess!

[jkomoros]

Originally Posted by dotti105

Wow!

Been using roundabouts my entire driving life.....Always have understood the right lane only exits. if you are preparing to exit, you need to merge into the right lane ahead of time.

Exiting across the right lane from the left is not safe or smart....although it may be "legal" here. (why that is?? mystery to me!)

All the more reason to use the golf cart whenever possible!!!!

The right lane can only be used if you want to use the first or second exit. (See sign Graciegirl posted or see roundabout brochure.) If you are exiting on second, third, or fourth exit you MUST be in the left lane. If you are in the right lane and try to use the third or fourth exit from when you entered, you will be turning into a car properly going through the roundabout in the left lane and you will be T-boned. Exiting only from the right lane in every case is not correct and will eventually case an accident.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Bonanza

These round-abouts/circles really are a problem. The physical sign (see photo) conflicts with the white markings on the street. We all know that a solid lines means not to pass and that a broken line means that you can pass. The street markings should definately follow the signs. They conflict one another. Isn't it the local DOT who has marked these roads?

It sure is a mess!

Welcome to TV. Another three months and you will be moving thru those roundabouts like a pro.

[JRW8219]

Originally Posted by memason

This is the first sign you should see, when starting into the roundabouts. It will alleviate all other problems....

Thank you! All the other scenarios pointed out by posters can't happen if Yield is followed as the first rule. Gracie's picture is the way it is at EVERY roundabout in TV. Should be no confusion but somehow there is.

There is NO discussion here. The painting on the roads needs to be some solid and some dash because you can (depending on your entry point) cross from the inside to an outside exit legally based on the pictures. As long as it isn't from the just previous entrance to the roundabout. Just go by the pics and everything is just fine.

[JRW8219]

Originally Posted by Bonanza

These round-abouts/circles really are a problem. The physical sign (see photo) conflicts with the white markings on the street. We all know that a solid lines means not to pass and that a broken line means that you can pass. The street markings should definately follow the signs. They conflict one another. Isn't it the local DOT who has marked these roads?

It sure is a mess!

As I mentioned above the lines are actually properly painted. If you understand the rules of: 1. Yield 2. If you are taking the first right - be in the right lane upon entering. 3. Be in either lane when entering if you want to go straight. 4. Be in the left lane when entering if going straight or going around 3/4 to take a left (or just keep circling)

[JRW8219]

Originally Posted by looneycat

that is not the intersection being discussed, the signs vary depending on the most expedient traffic pattern for THAT circle.

Not true! Every roundabout has this description. If not please post a pic here for us to see.

[Indydealmaker]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Will someone post the simple illustration?

Gracie, Per your request: