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Old 07-13-2015, 11:19 AM
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As an UK resident with loads of experience of roundabouts and an ex Villager, the answer to me is simple- EVERYONE enter the roundabout in the inside (RIGHT HAND ) lane, and everyone exits from the RIGHT HAND LANE- this keeps everyone in a controlled situation t and nobody gets hurt. I recall in 2014 a SMART car ( with a not so smart driver!!0 was in the outside lane ( LEFT HAND LANE) who decide to exit the roundabout and consequently was side swiped by a much bigger car in the RIGHT HAND lane- how stupid was the person in the smart car eh!! KEEP IT SIMPLE folks, stay behind each other in the RIGHT HAND LANE and NOBODY gets hurt!
And this "solution" just turns the RBs into a single lane as suggested by others. The answer is simple----YIELD. This means YIELD to traffic in both lanes already in the RB, YIELD to the bozo cutting in front of you to exit from the left lane, and better yet, do not ride side by side with anyone in a RB.
Rule 1: 2 cars cannot occupy the same space at the same time
Rule 2: Something like 70% of ALL accidents have the same cause---failure to YIELD the right of way. I was hoping that by the average age of the TV drivers, we would have lost the "me first" attitude. (That would be the same attitude that causes drivers to race ahead of a golf cart to beat them to a merge, the same attitude that leads to roping off seats at the squares, the same attitude that makes drivers turn on red and cut you off, etc.)
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As an UK resident with loads of experience of roundabouts and an ex Villager, the answer to me is simple- EVERYONE enter the roundabout in the inside (RIGHT HAND ) lane, and everyone exits from the RIGHT HAND LANE- this keeps everyone in a controlled situation t and nobody gets hurt. I recall in 2014 a SMART car ( with a not so smart driver!!0 was in the outside lane ( LEFT HAND LANE) who decide to exit the roundabout and consequently was side swiped by a much bigger car in the RIGHT HAND lane- how stupid was the person in the smart car eh!! KEEP IT SIMPLE folks, stay behind each other in the RIGHT HAND LANE and NOBODY gets hurt!
Maybe nobody gets hurt (that's far from a certainty) but you've effectively halved the capacity of all connected roadways. Simply can't be done.
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Old 07-13-2015, 11:34 AM
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As an UK resident with loads of experience of roundabouts and an ex Villager, the answer to me is simple- EVERYONE enter the roundabout in the inside (RIGHT HAND ) lane, and everyone exits from the RIGHT HAND LANE- this keeps everyone in a controlled situation t and nobody gets hurt. I recall in 2014 a SMART car ( with a not so smart driver!!0 was in the outside lane ( LEFT HAND LANE) who decide to exit the roundabout and consequently was side swiped by a much bigger car in the RIGHT HAND lane- how stupid was the person in the smart car eh!! KEEP IT SIMPLE folks, stay behind each other in the RIGHT HAND LANE and NOBODY gets hurt!
and BTW, I thought you had right and left mixed up until I realized that everyone in the UK drives on the WRONG side of the road (lol)
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Old 07-13-2015, 11:41 AM
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The signs are very clear. Imagine you are going down a 4 lane road. 2 lanes in each direction. You need to turn left, do you turn left from the right lane? NO. Well this is true in the circles. Very simple isn't.
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Old 07-13-2015, 11:49 AM
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IMO ... get rid of the dual lanes ... single lane roundabouts ... yield to vehicles already in the roundabout ... majority of vehicles wait for a clearing to enter anyways
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Old 07-13-2015, 11:53 AM
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Bad idea as it cuts the bandwidth through the Roundabout in half. Just pay attention to the signs that indicated which lane you should be in.

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IMO ... get rid of the dual lanes ... single lane roundabouts ... yield to vehicles already in the roundabout ... majority of vehicles wait for a clearing to enter anyways
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Old 07-13-2015, 12:10 PM
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Bad idea as it cuts the bandwidth through the Roundabout in half. Just pay attention to the signs that indicated which lane you should be in.
Actually, it doesn't cut the bandwidth in half. That would only be the case if all drivers maximized all the space in both lanes in the RBs and the RBs were completely filled to capacity.
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Old 07-13-2015, 12:12 PM
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I would add that you will see solid and dashed lines in the Roundabouts. Apparently, crossing a solid single line is discouraged but not illegal. This came as a bit of a surprise to me. Learned something new today.

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There are no roundabouts in The Villages. What we call traffic circles are really just round intersections. If you treat them that way, you will never have a problem. There are no law in FL specific to driving in them except it's illegal to drive on the center divider. The lines in the "round" intersection mark the travel lanes just as though the road were straight and by law requires signaling before crossing them. You cannot drive willy nilly through them as you please, like it or not.
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Old 07-13-2015, 12:13 PM
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Whatever. It cuts the maximum bandwidth in half. Regardless, it would create a bottleneck with 2 lanes feeding down to one. Happy?

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Actually, it doesn't cut the bandwidth in half. That would only be the case if all drivers maximized all the space in both lanes in the RBs and the RBs were completely filled to capacity.
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Old 07-13-2015, 12:22 PM
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There are no roundabouts in The Villages. What we call traffic circles are really just round intersections...
Heheh. Yeah. And there are no interchanges on interstate highways...just intersections with overpasses.
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Old 07-13-2015, 12:28 PM
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Heheh. Yeah. And there are no interchanges on interstate highways...just intersections with overpasses.
Good one
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Old 07-13-2015, 12:36 PM
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Two rules for modern roundabouts that are not well communicated:

do not pass other vehicles in a multi-lane circular roadway.
yield to all lanes in a multi-lane circular roadway

Not following these two rules is usually what causes most crashes at multi-lane modern roundabouts.
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Old 07-13-2015, 12:51 PM
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[QUOTE=ScottRAB;1086476]Two rules for modern roundabouts that are not well communicated:

yield to all lanes in a multi-lane circular roadway

I assume you mean UPON ENTERING
Otherwise, it reminds me of a law still on the books in Kansas from 1870's----"When two trains approach an intersection of track, both must stop and neither can start until the other one does"
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Old 07-13-2015, 01:52 PM
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I think exiting from the inside is just plain crazy, not to mention hazardous.
How about installing a sign BEFORE all entries that says "Merge right before entering roundabout", and having one lane only. As far as I know the only reason for two lanes is to accommodate emergency vehicles.
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