[outlaw]

Originally Posted by Bonny

Actually the Villages states that if there is an accident, the person on the outside will be determined to be at fault.

That agrees with my initial post; "yield to the inside lane".... I feel better now.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Heyitsrick

Here's an example of a Dutch roundabout. The striping makes it pretty obvious what lane to be in, and you can see how an inside lane essentially becomes an outside lane (unless one veers inside where appropriate) depending upon the position one is in inside the RB:



Here's a Google Earth image (you can zoom in/out on this) that shows a similar RB in Vancouver, WA that while not quite as clearly striped as the Dutch version, IMHO, looks familiar:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Va...91e3f3!6m1!1e1

Not so sure this is a great example. Looks like the white car and the dump truck at the top of the picture are 1/2 sec away from an "incident"

[bobnyce]

I always thought you exit from the outside lane not the center lane. Imagine if cars would be allowed to exit the interstate from the center lane. It should be the responsibility of the car that wants to exit to get to the right lane and if that means you must go around the circle a second time - so be it. Exit only from the right lane!

[Bonny]

Originally Posted by bobnyce

I always thought you exit from the outside lane not the center lane. Imagine if cars would be allowed to exit the interstate from the center lane. It should be the responsibility of the car that wants to exit to get to the right lane and if that means you must go around the circle a second time - so be it. Exit only from the right lane!

Once in the roundabout, you don't want to be changing lanes.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by bobnyce

I always thought you exit from the outside lane not the center lane. Imagine if cars would be allowed to exit the interstate from the center lane. It should be the responsibility of the car that wants to exit to get to the right lane and if that means you must go around the circle a second time - so be it. Exit only from the right lane!

That's not the way RBs work.

[Wandatime]

Originally Posted by MikeV

You can't fix stupid. The signs are clear in my opinion, If you want to go left stay in the left lane. If you want to go right get in the right lane. If you want to go straight then either lane. What is so darn hard about that?

Does seem simple, doesn't it? Yet I have seen just about everything you can imagine except for people actually backing around the round-a-bouts, and I'm pretty sure one day that too will happen.

[Warren Kiefer]

Originally Posted by outlaw

replace those ridiculous rb signs with a simple sign stating "yield to the inside lane at all exits". Wouldn't that provide a more consistent rule of engagement than those current signs? The current signage allows exiting from the inside lane at every exit depending on where one enters the rb.

absolutely right on !!! Yielding to the inside traffic is really dumb. This gives the inside driver permission to cut off other drivers in the outer lane. Take highway 27/441 for instance, is it acceptable for a driver traveling in the inside lanes to make a right turn exit in front of the traffic in the outer lane.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer

absolutely right on !!! Yielding to the inside traffic is really dumb. This gives the inside driver permission to cut off other drivers in the outer lane. Take highway 27/441 for instance, is it acceptable for a driver traveling in the inside lanes to make a right turn exit in front of the traffic in the outer lane.

I was on 441, in Leeburg, the other day. There is a fork in the south traveling lanes. The right lane is forced to take the right fork. The "inside" or left lane has the option of taking the left OR right fork. That's kind of how you have to view the RBs; each exit is a fork in the road. At least, that's how I view them.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by bobnyce

I always thought you exit from the outside lane not the center lane. Imagine if cars would be allowed to exit the interstate from the center lane. It should be the responsibility of the car that wants to exit to get to the right lane and if that means you must go around the circle a second time - so be it. Exit only from the right lane!

You're not exiting anything. You're simply staying in your lane. It's as if interstate off ramps had two lanes and the rule was that you can exit the interstate or stay on form the left hand lane, but you must exit if in the right hand lane.

And what you're suggesting is not the law. The law says that if you intend to turn right, you must use the right hand lane. If you intend to turn left, you must use the left hand lane. If you are going straight, you may use either lane.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by outlaw

I was on 441, in Leeburg, the other day. There is a fork in the south traveling lanes. The right lane is forced to take the right fork. The "inside" or left lane has the option of taking the left OR right fork. That's kind of how you have to view the RBs; each exit is a fork in the road. At least, that's how I view them.

Bingo! I'll repeat myself. In the case of a roundabout, you are not exiting a roadway. It's much more like a two lane fork in the road.

[cpbis]

The ra's are to small to use properly. If you enter from the right side you should enter the first right turn, if you are going to the second entrance you should enter from the left side and proceed to the right before the entrance. There just isn't enough room to do so properly so those on the left (using their directional signal) should enter their exit turn from the left. It is confusing and somewhat dangerous. Many of the problems could be solved by having only one lane in the roundabouts (but that is not feasible for several reasons) and then people using their turn signals, but that seems unlikely.

[twohippes]

Originally Posted by outlaw

Replace those ridiculous RB signs with a simple sign stating "Yield to the inside lane at all exits". Wouldn't that provide a more consistent rule of engagement than those current signs? The current signage allows exiting from the inside lane at every exit depending on where one enters the RB.

Yes, but the only problem is that there are way too many people who don't know the meaning of the word "YIELD"

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by twohippes

Yes, but the only problem is that there are way too many people who don't know the meaning of the word "YIELD"

Can you imagine those same people looking at those "map" signs and thinking "what the ..." just as they enter the RBs?

[maru8]

Better still is to have only ONE lane going around and eliminate the wonder if the middle lane is going to turn or not. It works well in other places I have been with the RB's!!!

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by maru8

Better still is to have only ONE lane going around and eliminate the wonder if the middle lane is going to turn or not. It works well in other places I have been with the RB's!!!

Yes. I agree. But many on TOTV have not experienced single lane RBs and dismiss them immediately as not viable in TV.