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Old 02-09-2015, 11:47 AM
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You are right, Walter123. . .
Why did the golf cart cross the road?
To get to the other side.
And without the gates, the odds of that happening would be greatly reduced.
Our gates save lives.[QUOTE]

Our gates don't save lives.
You go through a gate and immediately enter a circle --
a circle that causes many or almost many accidents.
I assume you have hard statistics on the "many accidents" in the "circles" that contradicts that of professional traffic engineers. I would like that link, please.
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Old 02-09-2015, 12:56 PM
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Not sure I agree with not using your horn. If it looks like someone is going to hit me I will take evasive action and blow my horn to alert the other driver. My only concern is that if that person is from Ohio they might not know what the sound is and be startled because they don't honk in Ohio.
Tee Hee, Gracie are you listening?
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Old 02-09-2015, 01:19 PM
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First it makes me sad when people move here and are not happy, Then it makes me mad when they want to change things.

Traffic, and waiting at restaurants and people clogging the grocery and even the church aisles is always greater or worse during the high season of January, February and March.

The circles are simple. Wait until there is no one in the circle approaching you. Enter in the right lane if you are turning right or going straight. Enter in the left lane if you are turning left. When exiting from the left lane be sure no one is behind you in the right lane. Don't drive NEXT to anyone in a circle. Allow them to get ahead of you, or behind you and watch what they are doing.

Practice in the middle of the night when no one is there.

Remember to drive as if everyone else is a crazy person......because many of them are. Don't honk your horn. PERIOD. It shows you aren't from Ohio.
So are you supposed to come to a complete stop when some bozo enters behind you and goes 3/4 of the way around like you are but in the right (wrong) lane? Subjecting yourself to danger/anger from anyone behind you? Yes, you must.

The Villages are great, but not perfect, and these two-lane roundabouts are one of its imperfections.
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Old 02-09-2015, 01:31 PM
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So are you supposed to come to a complete stop when some bozo enters behind you and goes 3/4 of the way around like you are but in the right (wrong) lane? Subjecting yourself to danger/anger from anyone behind you? Yes, you must.

The Villages are great, but not perfect, and these two-lane roundabouts are one of its imperfections.
Good video...

Yield to all lanes....

http://mntransportationresearch.org/...ne-roundabout/
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Old 02-09-2015, 01:52 PM
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Is this what they said? I watched it.

Stop for vehicles in the round about. [I think they said all vehicles. That means even the ones that are not near you.]
Don't stop in the middle of the round about except for pedestrians and bikes. [but they have cross walks so this does not apply down here]
Don't change lanes. [We have dashed not solid lines between the lanes.]
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Old 02-09-2015, 01:54 PM
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Tee Hee, Gracie are you listening?
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So are you supposed to come to a complete stop when some bozo enters behind you and goes 3/4 of the way around like you are but in the right (wrong) lane? Subjecting yourself to danger/anger from anyone behind you? Yes, you must.

The Villages are great, but not perfect, and these two-lane roundabouts are one of its imperfections.

Video: How to Navigate a Multi-Lane Roundabout | Crossroads
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Old 02-09-2015, 02:16 PM
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Oh, I've seen all the videos and brochures and read the signs. I know all the rules and advice about being aware of anyone around you 360 degrees. Still doesn't solve the problem of you being in the correct inside lane to go 3/4 the way around when some idiot sneaking in behind you and doing the same thing in the outside lane. I don't have eyes in the back of my head, and sooner or later an accident will occur. I go out of my way to get to my destination without using RABs, esp. In high traffic season.

Two lane RABs in an aging community where many have no prior experience with RABs where they came from... Bad idea.
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Bad drivers are bad drivers period. Not isolated to snowbirds, northerners, southerners etc. folks that drive with their head up their butt have no idea where they are from or where they are going.
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Will this thread never end......
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I know some people don't like the roundabouts but the powers that be, the developer, the traffic consultants, the traffic engineers, the county planners and finally the county engineers office must like them because they keep building them. We have been here six years and I think 8 or 10 new roundabouts have been built. They are not going to change the design because it works.
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Or else they are not going to change the design because they are blind to reality.
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I know some people don't like the roundabouts but the powers that be, the developer, the traffic consultants, the traffic engineers, the county planners and finally the county engineers office must like them because they keep building them. We have been here six years and I think 8 or 10 new roundabouts have been built. They are not going to change the design because it works.
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Or else they are not going to change the design because they are blind to reality.

It's obvious to me that the circles DON'T work.
Why else would there be five (5) pages of comments already, and it appears that the thread isn't even finished!
So I ask you . . .who's stupid???
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Old 02-09-2015, 02:55 PM
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Well I don't think it's the traffic engineers, traffic consultants, the county engineers or the county planners.
I never said anyone was stupid, I just pointed out that people with advanced degrees in traffic engineering designed the roundabouts.
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I like them! I wouldn't want a 4 way stop at every corner!
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